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540iA Saloon to 530dA Touring - What should I expect?

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I really could do with bigger boot space, and the cost of petrol is now taking its toll! So, the E39 530d Touring springs to mind...

 

So, heres my list of questions....

 

Anyone on here gone from a 540 to a 530D? Guessing it shouldn't feel too much slower due to similar torque figures?

 

Im currently getting 22mpg from my 540 - I would hope that the 530d would be considerably better, would 37ish mpg be realistic? or am I dreaming? (I do 60 miles a day 50/50 city/motorway)

 

What are they like pulling away (say at a junction from a standstill)? I had an Auto Omega a few years back with the 2.5TDS engine in (i know its completely different) - But that had a massive lag from stand still to 10mph (you almost had to put your foot down 2 seconds before you needed to move! ok, maybe a slight over exaggeration, but you get the idea!)

 

How reliable are the derv lumps (excluding the well documented swirl flaps). Im looking at cars with around the 180 - 200k mark. Anything I should look out for? Same applies for the auto box.

 

Think thats all for now folks...

 

Thanks in advance.  8)

 

Ian

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This thread should give you an idea: http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/topic/71548-530d-consumption/?hl=%2B530d+%2Bfuel+%2Bconsumption#entry739861

 

There's plenty more discussion threads on this topic if you familiarise yourself with the search function. ;)

 

C.

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Another couple more questions...

 

Do all 530d's have the Webasto heaters fitted as standard? Or were these optional when new?

 

Are the Tourings much noisier on the road? Ive been in a few estates before, and noticed there was LOADS more road noise than the hatch/saloon version.

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Think it will be a bit laggy on take off if you give it the beans

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Id imagine any car with 180k or more will be a lottery as far as autobox and turbo is concerned

Yes, I've thought that too.

 

That said, a mate said to me today - If it was a manual and the clutch went, its almost as much as sending the auto box in for a refurb. I still agree that a manual has less to go wrong though...

 

If the turbo went, I would replace it myself. Looks like they can be bought second hand for less than £200 (I know its another gamble though)

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Think it will be a bit laggy on take off if you give it the beans

Have you driven one?

 

I've never sat in one, so I can't comment. Dont get me wrong, im not expecting it to be anything like the 540 from a standing start. But faster than the average car would be nice.

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Autos tend to do 33 to 37 on average. Less in city driving and more on long motorway runs.

At the mileage suggested I'd be wanting to see replacement turbo, injectors refurbed, cooling system changed plus the usual E39 suspension issues including rear airbags

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Yes, I've thought that too.

That said, a mate said to me today - If it was a manual and the clutch went, its almost as much as sending the auto box in for a refurb. I still agree that a manual has less to go wrong though...

If the turbo went, I would replace it myself. Looks like they can be bought second hand for less than £200 (I know its another gamble though)

I am pretty sure that the cost of a new clutch and the cost of a gearbox rebuild are not even on the same planet! :)

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Do all 530d's have the Webasto heaters fitted as standard? Or were these optional when new?

Pretty sure it was standard fitment on the diesels. Telestart (remote operation of heater) was an option and on some cars you can set up a timer to make heater come on.

My old 525d had the basic webasto function whereby it came on only when the car was started in order to get the engine/cabin warmed more quickly.

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Think it will be a bit laggy on take off if you give it the beans

 

Completely the opposite, my 330d auto went like a stabbed rat, there is no discernable lag, they just pull like a train, went even better once it was mapped.

 

The 6 speed one I have now is quicker though, the ratios are much better and it has the later 3.0 engine, which is also better on fuel, shame the E39's never got it.

 

The 530d is bigger & heavier, but will still go well and be ok on fuel.

Edited by Rich_D

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You could always go the 530d Sport route with a de-cat and re-map, my old 530d Sport Touring left many a boy racer shamefaced at the lights. With well over 200bhp and some tremendous bottom end grunt it really flew. I don't know what your budget is, presumably quite low if you're considering 180k milers, I actually let my 2001 with 184k go for 1200 quid.

 

Noise-wise they are pretty good, you do get a little more background than in a saloon, but hey, that's what the volume control on the sound system is for! As for mpg, long motorway runs would see 42-44 easily, short, round town journeys when it didn't get up to temperature kept it down to low to mid 30s, it will certainly return far better mpg than your 540..

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You could always go the 530d Sport route with a de-cat and re-map, my old 530d Sport Touring left many a boy racer shamefaced at the lights. With well over 200bhp and some tremendous bottom end grunt it really flew. I don't know what your budget is, presumably quite low if you're considering 180k milers, I actually let my 2001 with 184k go for 1200 quid.

 

Noise-wise they are pretty good, you do get a little more background than in a saloon, but hey, that's what the volume control on the sound system is for! As for mpg, long motorway runs would see 42-44 easily, short, round town journeys when it didn't get up to temperature kept it down to low to mid 30s, it will certainly return far better mpg than your 540..

Yikes, 1200 quid? Sounds cheap?

 

Is this over priced then? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271378511965?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 I know its ended now, but its one of the few I've had in my 'watched items' list!

 

Was yours an auto too?

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I am pretty sure that the cost of a new clutch and the cost of a gearbox rebuild are not even on the same planet! :)

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Think he was saying it because the price of a DMF would be £400ish, then the clutch will be at least half that again? Aren't you suppose to change them in pairs?

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If you fancy a run down to Sheffield you are welcome to give mine a try. I've never driven a 540, but I've also never thought my oil-burner is slow off the mark. Its a Touring so you can consider the noise level too.

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If you fancy a run down to Sheffield you are welcome to give mine a try. I've never driven a 540, but I've also never thought my oil-burner is slow off the mark. Its a Touring so you can consider the noise level too.

Thanks for the offer, if ever im down your way, I will give you a shout.

 

I guess it was the older 4 speed auto box in the Omega which made it slow setting off then. I've been in a manual diesel Omega and that didn't seem slow.

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Yikes, 1200 quid? Sounds cheap?

 

Is this over priced then? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271378511965?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 I know its ended now, but its one of the few I've had in my 'watched items' list!

 

Was yours an auto too?

Mine was an auto, full service history, long MOT and a few months tax. It was in pretty good nick for a Y plate, few stone chips but no rust or dents, it had de-cat by Ecotune in Glasgow, EGR delete and had been chipped by the previous owner bar one who runs M3 Motor Co. a BMW specialist near me.

 

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I had it advertised for about 4 weeks in Autotrader and the local press (I even had it on here I think) I got nothing but crap interest and even crappier offers!

 

I personally think the one you were watching was a bit on the high side, but it's sold so what can you say?

Edited by pauliexjr

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Are the Tourings much noisier on the road? Ive been in a few estates before, and noticed there was LOADS more road noise than the hatch/saloon version.

 

Not sure about E39's specifically, but the estate Rover 75 definitely seems as quiet as the saloon, and I've been in plenty of each. 

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Yikes! If your estate was still for sale now at £1200, I would be jumping on the train tomorrow night! haha! Think its my favorite colour too...

Oh well... I will keep looking...

 

Cheers guys for feedback, Sounds like the Touring wont be much noisier then.

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Yikes! If your estate was still for sale now at £1200, I would be jumping on the train tomorrow night! haha! Think its my favorite colour too...

Oh well... I will keep looking...

 

Cheers guys for feedback, Sounds like the Touring wont be much noisier then.

Oh no, I started it off at 1700 quid, 1200 was the best I got offered, unfortunately it had to go as I had a company car and no-where to keep the touring except in the back garden.

 

I lost count of the number of "Yo, am wanting car, I have cash money here, will you take 750/800/900 for it now?" calls I got!

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I have a 530d saloon and find going from a standing start with any pace requires a bit of technique. Imo 1st gear should only be used to get the wheels rolling, get to second before 2k rpm and plant it thru 2nd and 3rd and you fly. Don't stamp on the go pedal though, press down progressively.

Ive written all that and realised yours is an auto. Goodbye

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