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What do you think E60 530D 2006 DPF

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Bought a E60 530D 2006 near end July. Dealer assured me everything would be sorted out and car serviced if I purchased car. All four Runflat tyres were bald with 2 down to the fabric. Driver mirror had also lost half its mirror backing. There was no excessive smoke coming from exhaust giving me confidence engine was in good order.

On collection questioned why tyres are not new. 3 different brands fitted and none a paired match. All just above the legal limit. Not very pleased as assumed 4 new tyres would have been fitted due to the state of previous ones.

MOT full pass with no advisory.

Drove car away and within 10 mins less than 2 miles DPF warning came up. Drove straight back and car was taken away and returned within the hour. Told cleaner had been put into DPF. Run for a couple of days to allow cleaner to work.

DPF continued to alarm up on every journey after 8-10mins driving. Aircon also not working and very noisy clutch.

Checked engine oil and air filter both had not been replaced. Replaced airfilter at my own expense. Brought this up with Dealer and he assured me engine oil service was done. I queried why service book had been stamped and oil/ filter ticked. Adamant that oil had been changed. It was like dirty black dish water. Also complained that engine thermostat was not working properly as hidden menu gave maximum running temp as 72-76 deg C. This also prevents the DPF from running a regen. Car also has slow puncture on passenger near side front. Runflat system alarm informs me about soft tyre, just keep blowing up tyre every few days.

Car returned to dealer for 5 days Clutch fixed and aircon part ordered. DPF more cleaner put in. Oil still the same. Told engine thermostat is fine. Engine still not getting to proper temp.

Ran for 12 days and then car returned to dealer for 15 days was told mechanics had trouble removing DPF, told it was beyond regen and new one fitted, plus a new pressure regulator was fitted to the aircon and the condenser leaked on testing. Aircon condenser replaced. Told due to new DPF being fitted and car will smoke a bit more until residue burns off. On collection PDC failure warning showing on OBD. Pointed this out as it was not there previously. Told this could happen at any time and diagnostics checked and second sensor rear driver side faulty. Told new part will be ordered.

2 days later Car smoke was now very bad with a very chemical pungent smell..

Looked at DPF and it did not look new to me.

Ran for 5 days car returned to Dealer for 3 days To have PDC fault fixed and DPF checked.

Car returned PDC fault still showing car still smoking . Told part was fitted and give it a couple of days for smoke to go.

Removed rear bumper to check PDC sensor found that original was still in place and had not been replaced. Replaced engine oil and filter with Castrol Edge FSD Fully synthetic. No change in smoke.

After a week took car to independent Garage for second opinion on DPF, mechanic took a look at car and told me DPF had not been replaced as original tie wraps and fixings are still in place. The nuts and bolts have not been touched as no score marks and one fitting with brass nut would have to have been replaced as it always shears off with pipe attached. He pointed out excessive smoke from exhaust and pumping out from oil filler cap. Told me to return car and get my money back as it could end up with ruined engine. Even looking at exhaust fumes mechanic told me it will never pass emission test for MOT.

back to dealers kept for 13 days, DPF and PDC faults to be sorted. Pointed out that that PDC sensor had not been replaced and DPF also has not been replaced. Dealer assured me DPF was replaced sensor will be looked into on collected of car. PDC fixed. Told crankcase filter replaced, Smoke from engine same. Told to run for a couple of days to burn of residue again.

2 days later During drive to Glasgow "Start Assist Inactive" warning came up onto computer then went away after 1 minute. This is a new fault not shown before "power steering"

Next day noticed engine bay was starting to get covered in a oil mist. Checked to see if new crankcase oil filter had been fitted. Discovered that the filter had been removed and not replaced cartridge type. Empty case in place. The last straw for me.

Totally lost confidence with dealer.

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My concerns are could they have had the DPF deleted by remmaping the car without actually removing it (cheap option) which is now causing the huge back pressue..

Also the front tyre has went to 8psi on 2 occasions since DPF was supposed to have been replaced and no warning has shown up on Runflat system only noticed due to loss of grip on roundabouts. Was working fine before DPF "replaced"

OBD does say system active and also reinizilised after pumping up.

Also there is a very pungent chemical smell from engine air filter and my new oil is now a different colour and above the dipstip max level. I checked this before it went into garage and was just below max and still a golden syrup colour. I think an additive has been added to air filter and engine oil trying and mask the smoke. Anybody got any thoughts as to what they have done.

I had it booked into BMW main dealer to get a report done but have cancelled as have raised grievance with finance company yesterday. They are going to speak with dealer and may ask me to take it to BMW at there expense insted of mine.

Dont want a car for the scrap heap when getting next years MOT.

Still like the car MPG still 39-44 and goes like stink.

Sorry for long post.

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I thought this type of car dealer didn't exist anymore! Absolutely disgusting!

Let us know any outcome just remember the phrase "fit for purpose"

YNP

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Morning Kilty1,

 

The car is not fit for purpose in any way shape or form.

 

Get it back to the garage for a full refund before it goes bang or something worse.

 

Boots

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Finance company had told me they will write to me within 5 days. I will then give them "The car is not fit for purpose" thanks for this advice.

It was a great car getting slowly destroyed by stupid mechanics who must think most car drivers are not capable in checking there work.

The dealer does not have on site garage services and keeps pretending he is the one getting stung as well every time I bring up part not fitted. Not my problem as mine is with him.

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I will certainly name, after resolved. Its a de'aler between Cumbuslang and Rutherglen near Glasgow.

Had to use dealer as only had 1k deposit and neaded finance. Now makes me think why I didn't go the a M5 that I would prefer to own.

Looked for ages for a 535D but like hens teeth in Scotland ended up settling on 530D. Another lesson learned.

As its the finance company I now owe I have to get it refunded throw them.

The dealer uses a local garage to his sales compound for all his work. They did fit a condensor for AC and new "clutch+flywheel."

If new DPF was fitted I would have sorted all the little problems out myself.

Last thing are you allowed to name company names on posts? i'm newbe

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Naming this clown definitely wouldn't qualify as an advert but may help somebody else from being snagged.i think its ok for this purpose but don't quote me :)

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is it a bmw dealer?  what was the mileage on the car? and did you test drive the car before you bought it? 

Edited by Samuk

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Sorry to hear of your troubles.

Reject the car. And quick.

You say the oil has a chemical smell and that may well be an additive but it's more likely due to the DPF being u/s. The EDC is pumping more and more fuel (as it should) into the motor to accommodate a regen that's not happening. This neat diesel will find its way past the rings,washing the bores as it passes and contaminate the engine oil. If left to continue the oil rises in the sump and sooner or later the motor will get into a 'run away' situation where it will basically run on its own oil and destroy itself. You'd have half a chance to catch it since it's a manual but it's not a nice experience if it did happen. The motor will not stop on the key in an run away situation!

If it was to blow up at anytime that would be a get out clause for the the dealer as he's only gonna say misuse on your part.

Return the car and polititly ask for your money back. What with that and the other issues including the tyres the cars clearly not fit for service considering that in the approx 2 months you've had it it's been at the dealer for repairs for approx 1 of those months. At the very least have the repairs done by a firm/garage you trust and feed him the bill. That should include the DPF and associated components,an full oil change and I'd be looking for some decent tyres as well.

Good luck.

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Thanks for this it explains a lot and I will be seeking full refund, unless it gets repaired at a BMW (specalised) or Garage all at their expense.

I will post outcome.

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Update: My finance company are sending out an indpendant inspector to my house to have a look at the car before the weekend.

They have spoken to the dealer and he has told them car is fixed and has done all he can and completed all repairs.

I informed Finance company car was too dangerous to drive after great advice from FIVE-OH about the diesel getting into the oil.

Explains the pungent smell from engine and exhaust and why oil level rises even though it is smoking badly.

 

Hopefully be looking for another car soon. (BMW off course) will update soon.

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I'm sorry but you have to take some responsibility for all this. Why would you buy a car that was so obviously a dog? If a car has 3 tyres down to the canvas then it patently hasn't been looked after, so why would you think it had been serviced. A 2 bit car sales, not Dealer, will always do the least possible and look to spend £250-300 max. The tyres would have part worns at £10 per corner, another £100 bits and pieces and you're done.

Don't rely on the Finance company as the garage is their main customer not you. It's very unlikely the Finance company will pay for a full report from BMW. You will probably need to pursue the Car sales through the small claims court, whilst still paying the Finance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it is definitely not as clear cut as some have intimated. You say yourself that it goes well and gives good mpg, so maybe it is fit for purpose? Whether it has faults will be for you to argue with the car sales, probably in a court.

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I'm sorry but you have to take some responsibility for all this. Why would you buy a car that was so obviously a dog? If a car has 3 tyres down to the canvas then it patently hasn't been looked after, so why would you think it had been serviced. A 2 bit car sales, not Dealer, will always do the least possible and look to spend £250-300 max. The tyres would have part worns at £10 per corner, another £100 bits and pieces and you're done.

Don't rely on the Finance company as the garage is their main customer not you. It's very unlikely the Finance company will pay for a full report from BMW. You will probably need to pursue the Car sales through the small claims court, whilst still paying the Finance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it is definitely not as clear cut as some have intimated. You say yourself that it goes well and gives good mpg, so maybe it is fit for purpose? Whether it has faults will be for you to argue with the car sales, probably in a court.

 

Well I disagree with you. Not all car sales people are "2 bit people".

 

Bought my daughter a Cooper S from independant a few months back, the brake pads and disks and tyres needed done all replaced with new and car fully serviced. The timing belt tensioner gave in after a couple of days, thie independant sent it to BMW as his mechanics put their hands up they were not confident enough for this job. full honesty and no giving it a go.

My wifes Jag was the same all new parts and tyres fitted plus fully serviced from independant.

 

So I do not miss trust all sales peolpe when it comes to buying cars. But there are a bad few.

In your opinion were then do you buy a car, main dealers "over inflated prices", privately "sold as seen"  then you would have to use small claims court if car is u/s.

 

There are still some good people in the world even if they do sell cars for a living.

 

As for the finance wait and see.

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I never trust a dealer - afew times i have been to buy cars and bikes - and i found mistakes in the service to millage stamps... lol

 

they will do whatever they can to hide imperfections & issues to get rid of the cars. Some will even waste your day in travelling by lying about the condition.. 

 

Saying that, me and my brother bought our 535's from the dealers - but in our cases they were 1 owner cars with full bmw service and had been P/X'd at the main dealers..so it was a quick sale for the smaller dealer - as we put the deposit down before they got or we saw the car... 

 

i guess over the years i have learnt that its not worth buying a car that has had more then 1 owner -

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I'm sorry but you have to take some responsibility for all this. Why would you buy a car that was so obviously a dog? If a car has 3 tyres down to the canvas then it patently hasn't been looked after, so why would you think it had been serviced. A 2 bit car sales, not Dealer, will always do the least possible and look to spend £250-300 max. The tyres would have part worns at £10 per corner, another £100 bits and pieces and you're done.

Don't rely on the Finance company as the garage is their main customer not you. It's very unlikely the Finance company will pay for a full report from BMW. You will probably need to pursue the Car sales through the small claims court, whilst still paying the Finance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it is definitely not as clear cut as some have intimated. You say yourself that it goes well and gives good mpg, so maybe it is fit for purpose? Whether it has faults will be for you to argue with the car sales, probably in a court.

What he said. You've been mugged off.

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Final update. Car returned to dealer "not fit for purpose" Got all my money back in January including all additional expenses spent on car., oil etc. Plus additional goodwill payment.

Black Horse were certainly fair, just took a while.

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Final update. Car returned to dealer "not fit for purpose" Got all my money back in January including all additional expenses spent on car., oil etc. Plus additional goodwill payment.

Black Horse were certainly fair, just took a while.

Glad to hear it has been sorted. Are you looking to get another Beamer?

Horsey

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I have just bought a Subaru Legacy estate 2.5 petrol awd. 2004 for the snow

Paid cash to stay finance free for a while as now possibly moving house, trying to get a new mortgage will be easier with no other debt.

Dealers name did start with that and finished with park cars.

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