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ive managed to clear the airbag light, but im still getting the lights up on the LCM. All the lights, doors & boot warning lights remain on. I wonder if its something to do with the Low OBC flickering before settling on being almost too dim to read (thats the display being dim & not me!).

Does the LCM stay on for a certain amount of time before going off?

What happens is i have the ignition on, read & clear any faults, then switch off & back on again - the LCM shows all warnings again.

Im taking it for a drive tonight & will record any errors that come up after the drive then report back.

Cheers

Andy

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Good news about the airbag fault mate, that's something atleast.The LCM (Light Control Module) is a seperate box mate, it lives behing the trimn where the bonnet release catch is, it's not embedded into he cluster.

As for the remainder, it would seem that you either have issues with the cluster itself or possibly the LCM, or potentially the associated wiring. The picture of the car only appears if there is something to light up, like a door open or bulb blown. Rather than starting to throw money at it in a random way, I have a spare set of LOW OBC clocks left over after I upgraded to high OBC. I'd be happry to lend them to you for diagnostic purposes mate, all i'd ask is for you to cover the postage and return them once you've finished with them.

They will not be coded to your car, so don't drive it with them fitted or you'll risk more issues. Swap them over and start the car to see if the dash lights up like blackpool illuminations. If it does, then you know the fault isn't with the cluster.

Now that I think about this, the VIN stored in the clocks needs to be the same as the one in the LCM or they won't communicate, so you won't get any errors shown. Did you get PASoft or BMW Scanner in the bundle from Jimmy?

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Hi Rob,

that would be great as a test to see whether my instrument cluster is knackered & would be much appreciated.

As for the software, i have (i think!) INPA & PASoft

I now have 2 further questions, how much of a lick out would it be to:

1. Code my VIN onto a different cluster

2. upgrade my current cluster to a high OBC cluster

Cheers

Andy

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Hi Rob,

that would be great as a test to see whether my instrument cluster is knackered & would be much appreciated.

As for the software, i have (i think!) INPA & PASoft

I now have 2 further questions, how much of a lick out would it be to:

1. Code my VIN onto a different cluster

2. upgrade my current cluster to a high OBC cluster

Cheers

Andy

Item 1 is easy if you know the right person - a bloke I know does this for £80. You do need to make sure you have a very similar cluster (same year / same fuel etc).

Item 2 I can't comment on, but I would imagine it would be a big job.

Dan

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Andy.

Coding the cluster with your VIN is easy if you have PAsoft mate. I'll PM you details.

As for the upgrade to high OBC, it's not hard to do the job mate, you'll need a replacement cluster and a retorfit kit. The kit is about £60 from BMW, and the clusters are anything from £75 - £125 second hand. However as danny_boy knows all too well, it is a little bit of a lottery with the clusters. Idealy you should look for one that is from a car of the same model and age as yours. Again, you need to code the VIN of your car to it, then copy the ZCS from the EWS to the replacement cluster. To correct the milage you eed to see a specialist as dan said, it is not illegal to havea different milage on the cluster, mine is 20k less that it should be, i just haven't got round to sorting it, it didi pass the MOT last month, amd ws recored with lessmiles than last year. It is legal however to sell the car without delcaring the replacement cluster.

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Cheers for that guys.

i do think mine needs replacing at the least - i think the ribbon is faulty as the display of the car flickers & goes totally dim with the OBC display bit.

Im not sure if it can be replaced/repaired, but its worth investigating.

Rob, i've PM'd you.

cheers

Andy

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Update - the cluster is now sorted - many thanks to Rob the Viking - for letting me mither him constantly & lending me his spare cluster, Jeek - again for patience & finding me the right cluster & Raymond -for in-advertantly lending me his diagnostic leads.

Now that the oscar speech is over, i'll get back to the update...

The long & short of it is that the cluster was knackered, it was the wrong one for my car & was itself a replacement. It had been bodged to hide the flickering & erroneous lights on the image of the car with doors, lights, boot/bonnet etc with a piece of card & a rock-off piece of blu tac covering the airbag warning light. So, whoever did this (car & owner known on the forum apparently) thanks for eff all. Hope you end up gargling seagull shite one day - for the dis-honesty!!!

Unfortunately, Rob's spare cluster was post the wiring change in 99 so wasnt compatible, in steps Jeek with a matched cluster to the knackered one in my car. Fortunately it works fine & i was able to match the mileage - which Rob informs me, makes me a lucky boy as its a bit of a lick-out to sort.

I then have since been to a local (to me) indie called Brabbs Motor Works, where they did a 'check-over' of my car for £45 - an hours labour basically. The owner (name escapes me) & the guys there were very chatty & very keen to learn about the forum. They were very good & answered all of my bone questions. They even re-gassed my aircon for £40 i think.

Anyway, here's what they picked up on the inspection:

Rear lower ball joints - excessive play

front discs & pads 80% worn

rear discs pads will need replacing when pads wear out

n/s diff output seal leaking slightly

diff drain plug leaking

rear brake flexi hoses starting to crack

power steering leaking from hose to pump (needs a new clip fitting)

airbag light on.

All in all, not too bad. Ordered the discs, pads, wear sensor & washers for the diff plugs (mechanic said thats what was diffy) for £150 delivered from Cotwswolds - cheaper than i could have ordered from ECP incidentally.

I've also had my seat bases re-padded as they were flatter than witches tits by a (local) company called Trimmenduz. He did both seats for £120 & he even dropped the car off when it was finished. He also has promised to drop me off a bottle of leather cleaner conditioner at home too.

I think ive found the issue with the airbag. The lead for the seatbelt female adaptor (tensioner is it??) was just cable tied so i think thats the problem with my permanent airbag light. So any ideas on how to do that would be greatly appreciated (not done a forum search yet!)

Other than that, nothing else. Thanks for sticking with the post - if youve not fallen asleep! I just want to say that this site is a bloody goldmine of information & assistance of good people - lets keep it up & if anyone wants a spare cluster or to borrow leads etc, please let me return the favour showed to me & i'll help if i can.

CHeers

Andy

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there is a sensor in the passenger seat too which you can make/buy a cheap by-pass for (means passenger airbag is always active) - worth looking in to anyway.

Congrats, btw, on getting it sorted too! :) Shame some idiot bodged it in the first place though...

Edited by Machinehead

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