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Hi, can someone please advise on the correct part number for the turbo actuator in my F10 B47 2 litre diesel engine (UK)?
My VIN is WBA5E52010G211665.


Garage guy performed diagnostics and identified a fault with the actuator - they asked BMW for a quote to supply but BM provide a whole bunch of other stuff along with it and a quote of £1600 is not tempting.

I asked them to try and locate the part from a breaker and asked them to let me know what the part number is so that I can also look - they gave 6NW010099-07 / 59001107149
Picture attached which I can't seem to find on the realoem.com website or by searching on ebay.
I found an ebay ad for an F11 2016 breaker and the guy checked, and his part number is 6NW010430-11.

 

I contacted a turbo remanufacturer and they advised below:

"You cannot look at the actuator numbers as a reference as they have never been listed as a separate part to the turbocharger and there is no part number for them, only the turbocharger as a complete item. The 6NW number does not corelate to a specific actuator, they are generic. It is incredibly risky buying second hand as you are potentially fitting an incorrect part to your vehicle, which could result in further issues."


Any help is much appreciated!


Thank you

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24 minutes ago, fifika4074 said:

Hi, can someone please advise on the correct part number for the turbo actuator in my F10 B47 2 litre diesel engine (UK)?
My VIN is WBA5E52010G211665.


Garage guy performed diagnostics and identified a fault with the actuator - they asked BMW for a quote to supply but BM provide a whole bunch of other stuff along with it and a quote of £1600 is not tempting.

I asked them to try and locate the part from a breaker and asked them to let me know what the part number is so that I can also look - they gave 6NW010099-07 / 59001107149
Picture attached which I can't seem to find on the realoem.com website or by searching on ebay.
I found an ebay ad for an F11 2016 breaker and the guy checked, and his part number is 6NW010430-11.

 

I contacted a turbo remanufacturer and they advised below:

"You cannot look at the actuator numbers as a reference as they have never been listed as a separate part to the turbocharger and there is no part number for them, only the turbocharger as a complete item. The 6NW number does not corelate to a specific actuator, they are generic. It is incredibly risky buying second hand as you are potentially fitting an incorrect part to your vehicle, which could result in further issues."


Any help is much appreciated!


Thank you

 

 

Sounds to me that you have provided the answer in your post and the remanufacturer has given you the best guidance you're going to get. We would only be using REALOEM for the part number reference and as you've already discounted that source I'm afraid your option is limited.

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yes, it seems my option is limited. I'm hoping to hear from someone who's had similar issues and how they overcame it.

 

I'm almost tempted to just buy the part from ebay and whack it in and see how it goes!

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From what I can see, the actuator is integral with the turbo which ties in with the advice from the specialist.  

 

In your photo that looks like hand writing (430-...) on the part which doesn't sit right with me somehow.  Original bits tend not to have had written numbers on them IME.

 

A cheap as chips aftermarket turbo (albeit with the manifold too as its integral) for mine can be had for just over £1k so a quote of £1600 for presumably a genuine one fitted isn't too bad.

 

Depending on the mileage and oil change history on the B47, I'd be tempted to stick in a new or a re-built turbo especially if you plan on keeping the car. But its not my cash.

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Thanks for all the responses.

Well spotted! The handwritten 430 indicates that this part was a replacement for an original. The dealer confirmed some turbo work was done just before I bought it and showed an invoice of approx £1000 for the job. Unfortunately, he gave a warranty of 6 months which expired 3 months ago :( 

 

I would have used a refurbish company but I have two problems, firstly this part is refurbished already so ideally looking for a genuine item and secondly, to send the part off for refurbishment requires the car to be unavailable while the part is being worked on - I don't have a spare car to use. I don't know whether it's safe to drive the car without the actuator.

 

So I am a bit stuck, I can't find the exact part number, I DON'T want to spend the money quoted for a new or refurbished whole turbo unit, I am happy to risk buying the part on ebay for a much lower cost and have my garage install it same day and see if it works.

 

I'll give it a few more days to see if anyone else has had this problem before - I can't be the only one!

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6 hours ago, fifika4074 said:

Thanks for all the responses.

Well spotted! The handwritten 430 indicates that this part was a replacement for an original. The dealer confirmed some turbo work was done just before I bought it and showed an invoice of approx £1000 for the job. Unfortunately, he gave a warranty of 6 months which expired 3 months ago :( 

 

I would have used a refurbish company but I have two problems, firstly this part is refurbished already so ideally looking for a genuine item and secondly, to send the part off for refurbishment requires the car to be unavailable while the part is being worked on - I don't have a spare car to use. I don't know whether it's safe to drive the car without the actuator.

 

So I am a bit stuck, I can't find the exact part number, I DON'T want to spend the money quoted for a new or refurbished whole turbo unit, I am happy to risk buying the part on ebay for a much lower cost and have my garage install it same day and see if it works.

 

I'll give it a few more days to see if anyone else has had this problem before - I can't be the only one!

Hi. If you just want actuator,then unless your garage has tools to calibrate it to work properly with your turbo its not going to work. Its not just straight swap and can give you drive train errors. Maybe worth getting second hand turbo unit.

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I used ECU Testing https://www.ecutesting.com/categories/turbo-actuators/ when mine was playing up. Cost about £100 but it came back with a clean bill of health. They're pretty easy to take apart & visually inspect though. ACTronics offer a similar service https://www.actronics.co.uk/actuator. Always note the Hella part number on yours though, and match it 100% if you're describing it to anyone / buying a replacement.

They're made by Hella, which is why you get the VW-like part number on them.

BMW or the internet will say they're paired to the turbo (which is how they sell them, as you know), and need specialist calibration. Not in my opinion they're not, just plug & play.

I ended up selling a spare one I had, as it wasn't actually my actuator that was at fault (ECU error was the culprit), bought by a guy in Australia!!! Mine was the only one he could find.

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that's excellent feedback - thank you! I will contact ECUTesting for advice. I do believe they are plug and play as I've seen videos where they refurbish and calibrate the units independent of the turbo and then ship back!

like this one here:

 

 

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I have a favour to ask. It could be that the dealer has replaced the part with an incorrect part number for my engine which is why it seems impossible to find an exact replacement.

If anyone has a B47 520d 190bhp engine, would you mind taking a picture of your units part numbers and post back please?

 

I contacted those two companies two posts above this, here's their responses:

ECUTesting:

We have seen these system types in before however unfortunately with the version of software they contain, we are unable to decode them to run them up on our testing equipment.

So we are unable to test them as if they are on the vehicle so on this occasion it wouldn't be something we can assist with.

 

Actronics:

If the unit has been worked on before, our success will depend on the methods previously used on the unit.  In some instances repairs are a one time repair which would render the unit end of life if it fails again.

 

Grosvenor Motor Company:
The actuators are setup, adjusted and paired to the turbo itself rather than the car. You can swap this over without coding but may still have issues as the turbo won't be setup to the actuator 100%.

 

Edited by fifika4074

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Help please :?:

 

£5 to charity of your choice for each picture confirming part number for:

If anyone has a B47 520d 190bhp engine, would you mind taking a picture of your unit's part numbers and post back please?

:lol:

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Not that I have a F10/F11 any more, nor was it ever a B47 anyhow, hopefully I can help you out a little. Apologies, but this harks back to your original post.

RealOEM tells me that your turbocharger has part number 11658570083. A little look on bay for that part number yields the following:

Actuator, Hella part number 6NW010430-35

I've had a look at the other B47 turbochargers on Ebay, and from what I can see, the above part number is correct.

 

 

Edited by BFleming

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@BFleming

You are a star! With your very helpful advice (better than all the turbo reman companies or turbo garages who wanted to refurbish my dead part or who wanted to sell a complete turbo unit at £1600 + labour + VAT + everything else!) I was able to buy a brand new actuator from eBay with part number - 6NW010430-35 ( https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303181979525)

for £70 inc free delivery and had it fitted for £40!

 

So this part is plug n play, no need for "calibration". She has got her mojo back and is pulling like a trooper! Hopefully this thread will help anyone else in the same predicament. Now I can get on with styling mods!

 

@BFleming

Thanks again, please nominate a charity of your choice, I will be glad to make a £10 donation for your valuable advice!

 

Conclusions

If something doesn't make sense to you then you've probably been given incorrect or biased information. Keep at it until you find a solution.

The garage I bought the car from must have installed an incorrect part for my car/model/engine - the part was obviously refurbished but it worked for a while. So even though it's working now, I don't know if this is a permanent fix. I'll update the thread when/if the situation changes.

 

 

 

 

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You're quite welcome - having gone through a similar process with my own E90 a few years ago I felt your pain! Glad to hear you're sorted anyhow.

My charity of choice is https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/ - I'm sure they will appreciate your donation, and that's very generous of you.

 

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