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6 minutes ago, Liam2594 said:

Yeah will keep a check. Obviously still early days, but he’s backed it with a two year/30k miles warranty which gives peace of mind. 

Cracking price too buddy....

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Excellent video, the updated tensioner may worth fitting to tighten up an original chain, all chains stretch, but it’s worth noting that if an engine has a slack chains I would have thought that the constant slapping could cause the chain slipper to break creating further slack which is the catastrophic end of the engine.

If the stretching slapping chains were not a problem how would you know if you would need to change them, only if they make noise unless the new designs meet a higher specification how long would they last?

My thoughts are that maybe it’s the tensioner design that has caused the problems with the snapping chains as that new tensioner is a  longer than the original, just my thoughts of course.

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@Liam2594 Thank you for making this thread I have been reading it extensively and I may end up driving to Tilbury GB to get my cars timing chain done. 

It turns out I bought an absolute lemon of a bmw 1 series E87 118D which hasn't been taken care of. 

The exhaust is touching the body of the car the center bracket been cable tied to the body of the car whole load of electrical faults parking sensors adaptive headlights etc.

But it's a beautiful looking car on the outside.

I couldn't have found out these faults before buying unless I put the car on a ramp. I feel helpless atm and desperately looking for the best course of action.

 

 

I went to a BMW specialist local garage who said the timing chain is noisy and needs replacing.

 

I have two options.

Spend further money on this car and fix the timing chain.

 

Or part exchange / sell it and get something else. It's a shame really I loved this car so much.

 

 

Here attached are the issues. Any advice for me? 

 

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13 hours ago, Bobwibbles said:

@Liam2594 Thank you for making this thread I have been reading it extensively and I may end up driving to Tilbury GB to get my cars timing chain done. 

It turns out I bought an absolute lemon of a bmw 1 series E87 118D which hasn't been taken care of. 

The exhaust is touching the body of the car the center bracket been cable tied to the body of the car whole load of electrical faults parking sensors adaptive headlights etc.

But it's a beautiful looking car on the outside.

I couldn't have found out these faults before buying unless I put the car on a ramp. I feel helpless atm and desperately looking for the best course of action.

 

 

I went to a BMW specialist local garage who said the timing chain is noisy and needs replacing.

 

I have two options.

Spend further money on this car and fix the timing chain.

 

Or part exchange / sell it and get something else. It's a shame really I loved this car so much.

 

 

Here attached are the issues. Any advice for me? 

 

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Hi. Some of the faults point that car was remapped at some point of time and i think thats why downpipe is wrong and exhaust backpressure fault. Not too bad that is. Strange fault for dde? Whats zero gear? Where is actual code?

Car has few bits and bobs that needs doing,but first decide wheather you keeping it or not,coz chain needs doing asap as that can cause damage to the engine if it snaps.

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6 hours ago, Yuri84 said:

 

 

Hi. Some of the faults point that car was remapped at some point of time and i think thats why downpipe is wrong and exhaust backpressure fault. Not too bad that is. Strange fault for dde? Whats zero gear? Where is actual code?

Car has few bits and bobs that needs doing,but first decide wheather you keeping it or not,coz chain needs doing asap as that can cause damage to the engine if it snaps.

 

Oh really? I was thinking the car needs a remap anyway lool. Maybe I'll forget remaps.

 

The dpf apparently has been deleted from the findings we have had in the garage.

I really love the car and would like to keep it with some work done. If I could get the timing chain done first then sort the rest I'll be a happy bunny. Bloody love the car compared to a clio 1.2 turbo this thing is a car of my dreams (I'm 21 and loving life when driving around in this) 

 

But yes I think I would definitely want to keep the car and avoid the stress of selling and changing it.

With a bit of tlc and some extra shifts on the weekends I would like to see the car pull through.

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@Yuri84

I think the zero gear fault is to do with the auto stop start. I think it's related to the zero gear sensor or something forgetting where neutral is from another forum I was reading up on.

I have been searching forums and forums and wow you can learn alot from everyones experiences it's amazing.

 

I have the CC I'd codes actually from a previous forum researching session and checking my cars dash if it's of any help.

 

Cc I'd 136 left brake light failure

Cc I'd 295 adaptive cornering lights failure

Cc I'd 397 start stop forgotten where neutral position is

Cc I'd 195 parking sensors

Cc I'd 134 right brake light failure

 

 

I think priority is definitely timing chain fix so that I can atleast drive around to garages to do the other tasks.

 

Parking sensors and auto start stop isn't that much of a priority atm neither is adaptive headlights.

 

The guy at Tilbury now charges 700 pounds for timing chains but that is still a bargain especially if he does it all in one day. He messaged me saying he is free next week.

 

Do you think it's smart to go ahead then? I will be honest in saying I am more excited to keep the car and fix it up. Than seeing it go and getting something else.

 

Also here attached is picture of the underside of the car which led to the guy at the bmw specialist independent garage to call my car a lemon.

 

It has had a bodged up job to fix the vibrations when driving. I didn't realize the guy at the garage I paid for used cable ties and rubber to fix the vibrations. (It did help quite a bit though) 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bobwibbles said:

Will it be expensive to fix? New downpipe is 160 pounds.

Shouldn't cost a fortune get a good garage mate for a quote there is too many rip off garages around 

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1 hour ago, Liam2594 said:

Couldn't recommend the timing chain chap highly enough, great work, car runs a lot better since. Nice guy too.

That's lovely to hear. It definitely is in Tilbury right? He is free next week he told me.

 

How long did it take? 

 

I am hoping to get that done then exhaust system sorted then the car is basically pretty good. 

I think it may need to have a check with the remap possiblity already being done in the past to change to an economy or any map putting less burden on the car and injectors etc.

 

If I can do all of this for 1K or 1.3K I think it is worth it.

 

Thank you so much Liam for your thread it gave me some hope.

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1 hour ago, bestdj said:

Shouldn't cost a fortune get a good garage mate for a quote there is too many rip off garages around 

I very much agree.

I have been to many garages. All the highly rated ones... Are rip offs! 

I have no idea who to go to. 

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19 hours ago, Bobwibbles said:

have no idea who to go to.

Hard to find good honest garage mate I've got same problem 

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Well big update, BMW garage told me its 2.7k to fix the chain, I think ill go tilbury on the Tuesday coming and get it done for 700 by the good chap. 
Then try and fix the other issues when I can.

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They having a laugh 2.7k! Bmw is at fault here with this shocking issue costing people thousands!! They should be fixing those affected for free until not a single one left!!

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