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Hi Gary

 

It does look clean, for the life of me I cannot remember the reasons as to why the car was overpriced, but as said, they’ll have been genuine issues

 

I think one issue was one or more of the tyres had been badly kerbed , leaving them with missing chunks... Never a good thing 

 

Thing is with this, if you’re local enough, is to view it and give it a thorough once over, checking all the arches, sills, jacking points and rear boot lid for rust, checking the alloys and brakes etc, making sure it’s got decent paperwork to show its history and level of maintenance etc...

 

Yes it’s an Agean edition, but that’s it, it’s spec looks fairly basic and personally I wouldn’t go over £3.5k to £4k for it... 

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Cheers for that. Difficult to go and have a look right now so not ideal. £5k is more than I'm prepared to pay. There may be some give in the price but not sure there's enough give! Important to me is leather sports seats, for comfort, and would ideally be heated. Don't think these are heated. This has some strange spec, like a DVD player! Not sure it's got the right spec for me. Paddle shifts are all well and good but had them before and never used them. Limited edition should help value though.

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That’s serious money for a 530.....manual seats and no E39 came from the factory with paddle shift. I’d want to check it over as Dan says and double check all the MOT mileages tie up but £5k is fantasy money

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And I don't think interior is 100% OEM, those pedal covers definitely isn't original E39 stuff and I have never heard of OEM carbon trim. If it's rare, limited edition, it would be good idea to keep things unmodified. Yes, it's low mileage, but still FSH is important and a "must have" for 5k price.  And bodywork must be perfect, without rust etc. Without seeing car it's hard to judge how fair is price. But it's definitely at the tops of 530i, more like 540i price range. 

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55 minutes ago, Ray112 said:

And I don't think interior is 100% OEM, those pedal covers definitely isn't original E39 stuff and I have never heard of OEM carbon trim. If it's rare, limited edition, it would be good idea to keep things unmodified. Yes, it's low mileage, but still FSH is important and a "must have" for 5k price.  And bodywork must be perfect, without rust etc. Without seeing car it's hard to judge how fair is price. But it's definitely at the tops of 530i, more like 540i price range. 


It’s wrapped trim by the looks of it. 
 

Like you said, for £5k it’d need to have heated seats, electric and memory at a minimum etc...
 

If it were a Jap import with zero corrosion and a much cleaner interior, I could see the price being higher, but for me, it’s a £3.5k car tops...

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18 minutes ago, Gary1980 said:

Cheers for that. Difficult to go and have a look right now so not ideal. £5k is more than I'm prepared to pay. There may be some give in the price but not sure there's enough give! Important to me is leather sports seats, for comfort, and would ideally be heated. Don't think these are heated. This has some strange spec, like a DVD player! Not sure it's got the right spec for me. Paddle shifts are all well and good but had them before and never used them. Limited edition should help value though.


The DVD is the OEM navigation unit Gary, but it’s outdated and cannot be updated with recent maps. 
 

Paddles are aftermarket and like your I’ve had them previously and never used them, they’re crap IMO and don’t suit the E39.

 

Id keep your cash and keep looking :) 

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To add on top, in description all these modifications are listed as "rare factory extras", but they are not, which means either owner don't have much knowledge about e39 models, or he hopes that potential buyer won't have much knowledge and will highly value those bits. But for enthusiast with knowledge, those things definitely doesn't leave good impression, especially on limited edition model, and calling them factory extras makes it sound even more stupid.

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Hi,

 

As already mentioned, the trim set is not OEM, what's likely is the set the car originally came with - Birch Anthracite has been removed and sold on by a previous owner (or by this owner) and a normal set of Vavona has been wrapped in CF vinyl. I'd be very surprised if the Birch Anthracite trim had been wrapped! the Pedal covers are also non OEM too. The Paddleshift conversion wasn't a factory option on the E39, but it's a common modification done using OEM parts from an E46. Most owners who do it do like the conversion, I did it in my Touring and used them every time I went for a spirited drive, I wouldn't say its a 'crap' modification though, all depends on what your own preference is. 

 

I'd say do check the car over carefully, if the chassis/bodywork/drivetrain and their condition all point to an otherwise well looked after example then the 'extras' can be removed and sold off and that's after you negotiate a better price for the car overall. It may turn out to be a gem of a car and which would be a good purchase at £4500/4750. Or, it might be just shy of that level and with some TLC could be good but  a purchase price of £3.5K ish as mentioned already. 

 

There's not many Aegeans out there and there's been a good number of much poorer examples that have come up for £2K or thereabouts, so if it's an Aegean you'd really like for E39 ownership, then this car seems to deserve a lookover in the metal. 

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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There were only 150 Aegean 530i's and 150 530d's brought into the UK.

 

As mentioned above Ltd Edition models could not be ordered with factory options therefore all the petrol cars will have no electric or heated seats. The petrol model had Lotus white leather whereas the diesel had std grey leather. That way they could keep the selling price the same for both engines. 

 

The best equipped Ltd Edition model is a Champagne I Edition - it had electric heated seats which were lacking in the Champagne II. Champagne II had the birch wood trim against the silver of the I. 

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HI @Gary1980 just reading this thread Yes I saw that ad which did have the reg plate DE03 XSC and then I saw the same car (same pics) advertised with the plate painted out at the higher £7k price. Sounds dodgy to me.

Anyway I am an owner of a E39 530d Aegean Blue automatic, the reg is HN03 FNV, and bought it from the original owner when it was 3 years old. I have looked after this car for the last 14 years and have a trunk full of service receipts and Mot certs.

Where are you located, I am in Wimborne Dorset and would be very happy to show you my car. I didnt have plans to sell but cirumstance are changing so I am open to offers.

Have put 1 pic below for you to see what my car looks like, enjoy B)

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Just now, ajl530d said:

HI @Gary1980 just reading this thread Yes I saw that ad whihc did have the reg plate DE03 XSC and then I saw the same car (same pics) advertised with the plate painted out at the higher £7k price. Sounds dodgy to me.

Anyway I am an owner of a E39 530d Aegean Blue automatic, the reg is HN03 FNV, and bought it from the original owner when it was 3 years old. I have looked after this car for the last 14 years and have a trunk full of service receipts and Mot certs.

Where are you located, I am in Wimborne Dorset and would be very happy to show you my car. I didnt have plans to sell but cirumstance are changing so I am open to offers.

Have put 1 pic below for you to see what my car looks like, enjoy B)

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Not just you; there's a thread on that car over on FB too now also... 

As I've said on there & on here; there's just something not right with those ads!

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4 minutes ago, d_a_n1979 said:

As I've said on there & on here; there's just something not right with those ads!

Indeed but my car is beautiful and I have loved driving it from the very first day I bought it till now, best car I have ever owned :P

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1 hour ago, d_a_n1979 said:

 

Not just you; there's a thread on that car over on FB too now also... 

As I've said on there & on here; there's just something not right with those ads!

It's definitely something wrong with that car I believe, first proof of that is fact, he's stating modified things being rare factory options. If seller is not telling the truth and lying about obvious things, it definitely doesn't build trust.

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14 hours ago, ajl530d said:

Indeed but my car is beautiful and I have loved driving it from the very first day I bought it till now, best car I have ever owned :P

 

I've seen this car on my travels and wondered if it was owned by a Forum member - very nice indeed!

 

 Greetings from a fellow Wimbornite:D

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Hi Gary: Seems to me the cost of buying an E39 is made up of two elements: What you pay for the vehicle, and what you pay to rectify things that need doing. So, £5K might be reasonable if nothing needed doing - or could be expensive if you then needed to shell out another two or three grand to make it safe, legal and reliable. For example, I bought an E39 530i in January since when I've had to pay out a further two grand on rectifying problems (gear selector switch; light control module (LCM); pusher fan;  viscous fan; air intake hoses; windscreen washer pump and tubing; interior courtesy light; 12v socket / cigarette lighter; bonnet alarm etc). Of course if you're a competent home mechanic with knowledge, tools and facilities (and are prepared to shop around for suitable non-BMW parts) then this helps tremendously. If not, then even if you avoid BMW main dealers and use a local BMW specialist Independent garage, you'll be paying out a lot more (labour alone costing around £60+ plus per hour, maybe plus vat)  - and you can expect to pay much more for the parts than you could buy them yourself on-line. So, bottom line is: You absolutely must inspect a potential purchase in person. Be prepared to spend a couple of hours trying out every switch and feature on the car, looking and listening to the  car running when stationary, and driving it at various speeds over a reasonable distance. And be prepared to walk away. On my car, the hazard warning lights only worked intermittently (an MOT failure item) which turned out to be the LCM which cost a packet to have replaced. Regarding the vehicle you're speaking of; IMO the E39 has future potential as a modern classic - but originality will be key to pricing. So, personally, I'd avoid an E39 that had been "mucked about with". These are of course just my personal thoughts; but hope they are useful.

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4 hours ago, Michael:E39 said:

Hi Gary: Seems to me the cost of buying an E39 is made up of two elements: What you pay for the vehicle, and what you pay to rectify things that need doing.

@Michael:E39 very good advice n my opinion. You are not far from me here in Wimborne, maybe we should arrange a Dorset members meeting!

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4 hours ago, Michael:E39 said:

Hi Gary: Seems to me the cost of buying an E39 is made up of two elements: What you pay for the vehicle, and what you pay to rectify things that need doing. So, £5K might be reasonable if nothing needed doing - or could be expensive if you then needed to shell out another two or three grand to make it safe, legal and reliable. For example, I bought an E39 530i in January since when I've had to pay out a further two grand on rectifying problems (gear selector switch; light control module (LCM); pusher fan;  viscous fan; air intake hoses; windscreen washer pump and tubing; interior courtesy light; 12v socket / cigarette lighter; bonnet alarm etc). Of course if you're a competent home mechanic with knowledge, tools and facilities (and are prepared to shop around for suitable non-BMW parts) then this helps tremendously. If not, then even if you avoid BMW main dealers and use a local BMW specialist Independent garage, you'll be paying out a lot more (labour alone costing around £60+ plus per hour, maybe plus vat)  - and you can expect to pay much more for the parts than you could buy them yourself on-line. So, bottom line is: You absolutely must inspect a potential purchase in person. Be prepared to spend a couple of hours trying out every switch and feature on the car, looking and listening to the  car running when stationary, and driving it at various speeds over a reasonable distance. And be prepared to walk away. On my car, the hazard warning lights only worked intermittently (an MOT failure item) which turned out to be the LCM which cost a packet to have replaced. Regarding the vehicle you're speaking of; IMO the E39 has future potential as a modern classic - but originality will be key to pricing. So, personally, I'd avoid an E39 that had been "mucked about with". These are of course just my personal thoughts; but hope they are useful.

Well there I will disagree little bit.

I absolutely understand that car has to be inspected before purchase and it's a "must to", but , for example, if someone would be sitting in car,  I'm trying to sell, and inspecting every single switch for several hours, I would kindly ask him to speed up with decision or walk away.   There are limits even to seller's patience I believe. Another thing, if you need to inspect car for few hours to understand is it any good, it definitely proofs that your knowledge about cars might not be enough good, and much better idea would be to take car for inspection in garage. If seller has nothing to hide, he will accept this idea much better than wasting hours in some switch inspection.  

 

Bare in mind, that every used car is a gamble, you can't climb inside engine or transmission. What is working perfectly today, may fail tomorrow. And even garage won't be able to inspect 100% of everything even if car is left for few hours. Only solution to this is buying a brand new car which is covered under warranty, ther you won't have any risks, but unfortunately E39 don't fit in this category. 

Hopefully I didn't abuse anyone's feelings too much.

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18 hours ago, ajl530d said:

@Michael:E39 very good advice n my opinion. You are not far from me here in Wimborne, maybe we should arrange a Dorset members meeting!

Hi AJL,  Dorset E39 meet sounds great idea. I'd love to see your motor and swap experiences. I'm Covid-19 isolating at present, but how about meet-up, say Kingston Lacey car park, post Covid-19 restrictions? Keep in touch. Regards Michael. 

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19 hours ago, Ray112 said:

Well there I will disagree little bit.

I absolutely understand that car has to be inspected before purchase and it's a "must to", but , for example, if someone would be sitting in car,  I'm trying to sell, and inspecting every single switch for several hours, I would kindly ask him to speed up with decision or walk away.   There are limits even to seller's patience I believe. Another thing, if you need to inspect car for few hours to understand is it any good, it definitely proofs that your knowledge about cars might not be enough good, and much better idea would be to take car for inspection in garage. If seller has nothing to hide, he will accept this idea much better than wasting hours in some switch inspection.  

 

Bare in mind, that every used car is a gamble, you can't climb inside engine or transmission. What is working perfectly today, may fail tomorrow. And even garage won't be able to inspect 100% of everything even if car is left for few hours. Only solution to this is buying a brand new car which is covered under warranty, ther you won't have any risks, but unfortunately E39 don't fit in this category. 

Hopefully I didn't abuse anyone's feelings too much.

Hi Ray; You're right of course. To expect to spend several hours in a car with a private seller would be unreasonable and unnecessary. I guess I was simply trying to make the point that quickly checking the operation of things like windows, hazard warning, central locking, radio, 12 volt socket, air con, mirrors, electric seats, pdc, lights, horn, interior lights etc might give an indication of how well the car has been maintained, and what some immediate expenditure might be. There are increasing few E39's for sale, and so viewings might entail a considerable round trip. I wouldn't expect  "it's a used car, take it or leave it" from a genuine seller. Don't see why quickly checking out the items above should make seller think that "I know nothing about cars", and to be honest I really wouldn't care if it did. Anyway, we"re agreed that E39's are great cars to own and drive, but that purchasing should be done with the usual care. Regards. 

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On 9/29/2020 at 6:14 PM, d_a_n1979 said:

 

Not just you; there's a thread on that car over on FB too now also... 

As I've said on there & on here; there's just something not right with those ads!

Noice car. Love the colour of these editions. I'm about as far from Dorset as it's possible to be in mainland UK - Inverness. It's making viewing cars quite tough. 

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Hello, I've been an Aegean 530i owner for the last 10 years myself, bought mine in 2010.  Sadly mine no longer can be called an 'original Aegean' as I kept on tinkering with it for the last 10 years and added/changed a lot of stuffs in it, even the engine.

 

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On 28/09/2020 at 16:16, E39mad said:

There were only 150 Aegean 530i's and 150 530d's brought into the UK.

 

As mentioned above Ltd Edition models could not be ordered with factory options therefore all the petrol cars will have no electric or heated seats. The petrol model had Lotus white leather whereas the diesel had std grey leather. That way they could keep the selling price the same for both engines. 

 

The best equipped Ltd Edition model is a Champagne I Edition - it had electric heated seats which were lacking in the Champagne II. Champagne II had the birch wood trim against the silver of the I. 

Its actually Light Silvergrey interior, not Lotus white

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