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12 hours ago, d_a_n1979 said:

 

Surely the fabricator can sort out another silencer to quieten down the system? The drone will be due to the lack of a central silencer no doubt; a good exhaust place will sort that out for you in no time

 

Seems you'll be going to a lot of expense for this; when it could be a relatively easy & cheaper fix to fix the exhaust that's already fitted to the car

 

Not quite, if you view my post of the 20th. you'll see that there is a centre 'box in this cat-back. You have raised a valid point though, having already contacted the fabricator about making a fitting to allow fitment of a 'standard' exhaust it may well be worth running your idea past them. There could be a snag though …  the sports system currently on the car was fabricated by a rival outlet … not always a good thing when alterations are needed :(

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12 hours ago, duncan-uk said:

Have you tried Tims on here for an original system? He will courier and a local garage should easily fit it perhaps with some new rubbers?

 

Thank you Duncan, I'm too new to the forum to be familiar with the name … could you suggest contact details ?

 

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Thank you again for your time Duncan.

I love the car & everyone admires it's condition, but in 55 yrs. I don't think I've ever bought a motor that has seen so many 'modification' attempts. No one but myself to blame, but I'll get there & appreciate everyone's help.

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8 hours ago, Norseman said:

 

Not quite, if you view my post of the 20th. you'll see that there is a centre 'box in this cat-back. You have raised a valid point though, having already contacted the fabricator about making a fitting to allow fitment of a 'standard' exhaust it may well be worth running your idea past them. There could be a snag though …  the sports system currently on the car was fabricated by a rival outlet … not always a good thing when alterations are needed :(

 

I'd stick with that idea

 

If the exhaust fabricator is worth his salt; he'll do the work you ask him to and only warrant that work; which is fair enough

 

Personally; messing about with ripping one whole system off and then replacing it with another, when a simple silencer could be fitted to really dampen down the noise, just makes more sense

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On ‎6‎/‎30‎/‎2020 at 6:10 PM, d_a_n1979 said:

Personally; messing about with ripping one whole system off and then replacing it with another, when a simple silencer could be fitted to really dampen down the noise, just makes more sense

 

Agree entirely, I tend to over-think things sometimes.

Arranged to call the fabricator on Monday to arrange an appointment as soon as.

Cheers

N.

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14 minutes ago, Norseman said:

 

Agree entirely, I tend to over-think things sometimes.

Arranged to call the fabricator on Monday to arrange an appointment as soon as.

Cheers

N.

Spotted 525i OEM exhaust on Facebook sales page today for £60. Rear and middle silencer part, I believe everything from that's coming after cats. Single pipe. Not sure if any good and location, but might be worth to check.

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Thanks for that Ray, I'll keep it in mind though I'm not on Facebook / Twitter etc.

Not sure if the 525 application is the same as my 523, for example the rear 'box part # is only applicable to both the 523 &  520. Sedan & touring part # are also different, possibly due to rear suspension design. Even some parts differ between E39's up to 9/98 (phase one) & those manuf. after that date, hence my paying £48 for a genuine BM autobox filter to ensure I got the correct fitment, following the previous AutoDoc fiasco  :angry:

 

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59 minutes ago, Norseman said:

Thanks for that Ray, I'll keep it in mind though I'm not on Facebook / Twitter etc.

Not sure if the 525 application is the same as my 523, for example the rear 'box part # is only applicable to both the 523 &  520. Sedan & touring part # are also different, possibly due to rear suspension design. Even some parts differ between E39's up to 9/98 (phase one) & those manuf. after that date, hence my paying £48 for a genuine BM autobox filter to ensure I got the correct fitment, following the previous AutoDoc fiasco  :angry:

 

You might be correct about them being different exhausts between 523 and 525. 

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23 hours ago, Ray112 said:

You might be correct about them being different exhausts between 523 and 525. 

 

Yes car ownership is a learning curve to be sure. Although I had a '96 E34 520i touring years ago I'm still learning about BM's

I'm a classic Land Rover bloke at heart, so the build quality & performance of an old BM is a revelation as LR has neither of these attributes :rolleyes:

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On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2020 at 8:57 PM, Norseman said:

 

 

 

On ‎6‎/‎30‎/‎2020 at 6:10 PM, d_a_n1979 said:

If the exhaust fabricator is worth his salt; he'll do the work you ask him to and only warrant that work; which is fair enough

Personally; messing about with ripping one whole system off and then replacing it with another, when a simple silencer could be fitted to really dampen down the noise, just makes more sense

 

Fabricator has checked out the existing (modified) set-up on the ramp. Rather than try to flog me anything of his own fabrication his opinion was that only retrofitting a standard spec. system would give me the sound that BM intended & he would carry out the necessary alterations to allow that system to fit onto the original CAT.

Being unable to afford OE & unlikely to find a good used exhaust from a breakers, due to age of the car & the fact that the part numbers change from 9/98 (mine is June '98) can I ask for any opinions of the Gerlach systems sold on Ebay etc. ?  There are very few reviews of these on the net, but I haven't a bad comment yet, though fellow BM owners own views would be appreciated … as always.

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2 hours ago, Norseman said:

 

 

Fabricator has checked out the existing (modified) set-up on the ramp. Rather than try to flog me anything of his own fabrication his opinion was that only retrofitting a standard spec. system would give me the sound that BM intended & he would carry out the necessary alterations to allow that system to fit onto the original CAT.

Being unable to afford OE & unlikely to find a good used exhaust from a breakers, due to age of the car & the fact that the part numbers change from 9/98 (mine is June '98) can I ask for any opinions of the Gerlach systems sold on Ebay etc. ?  There are very few reviews of these on the net, but I haven't a bad comment yet, though fellow BM owners own views would be appreciated … as always.

But what exactly changes after 9/98?  I believe floor pan is still the same, even on later facelift 6 cylinder cars. So if some fabrication is required anyway to get OEM exhaust back on, maybe you can use OEM exhaust from some other 6 cylinder petrol e39? I haven't checked any part diagrams, so maybe my idea is totally wrong, but if not, it might be a solution to your problem. 

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10 hours ago, Ray112 said:

But what exactly changes after 9/98?  I believe floor pan is still the same, even on later facelift 6 cylinder cars. So if some fabrication is required anyway to get OEM exhaust back on, maybe you can use OEM exhaust from some other 6 cylinder petrol e39? I haven't checked any part diagrams, so maybe my idea is totally wrong, but if not, it might be a solution to your problem. 

 

I see where you are coming from Ray & thank you for the suggestion. I only know that the part nos. change & my concern is that whilst paying a garage to carry out this work I want to supply them with the correct kit first time around. I spent ages last night trawling through a number of reviews for Gerlach from several different owner forums (not just BM) & the general consensus is that the company produces value-for -money products that generally fit without problems. A CAT-back system from them inc. brackets will cost £133 with free delivery from Germany (though the manuf. is a long established company in Poland) & of course it won't last like OE, but then I've spent a motoring lifetime replacing aftermarket exhausts every few years & accept such products as consumables.

My approach may well be considered a cop-out by some BM affectionardo's, but advancing age & paying for labour tends to dampen the enthusiasm I once had -_-

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