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Just buying a 530e, my first BMW.

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38 minutes ago, G Whizz said:

No - but it is fully air conditioned ;-)

 

Pity that I can't change the settings however. 

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On 03/12/2019 at 16:47, sjak92 said:

nope, the 530d is the best 5 series out there, everyone will say that

 

Nope.  Everyone won't say that.  I don't.  So that's less than everyone then.  The 530d is a dirty diesel.Yesterday's car.

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15 minutes ago, TheDarkLord said:

 

The 530d is a dirty diesel.Yesterday's car.


producing the same amount of Co2 as the 530i and far less than the 540i? Someone is on the diesel is devil bandwagon

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43 minutes ago, TheDarkLord said:

 

The 530d is a dirty diesel.Yesterday's car.


Check the figures before joining the eco-bandwagon. Diesels are far removed from the problem cars of 10 years ago, little different to petrols,  but it’s trendy to slag them off.

 

Just wait a few years until we know the lifetime costs of wind turbines and batteries before joining the populists.

 

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14 minutes ago, Boba said:


Check the figures before joining the eco-bandwagon. Diesels are far removed from the problem cars of 10 years ago, little different to petrols,  but it’s trendy to slag them off.

 

Just wait a few years until we know the lifetime costs of wind turbines and batteries before joining the populists.

 

 +1 to that!

 

Absolutely worst thing about these eco drivers is the fact they somehow think they are above everyone else because they run electric but somehow forget the impact of producing and then recycling the battery in their car. They are slowly creeping up to cyclists in terms of entitlement levels

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17 minutes ago, sjak92 said:

 +1 to that!

 

Absolutely worst thing about these eco drivers is the fact they somehow think they are above everyone else because they run electric but somehow forget the impact of producing and then recycling the battery in their car. They are slowly creeping up to cyclists in terms of entitlement levels

Now now. Don't paint everyone with the same brush, please.

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to be fair cycling is as green a mode of transport as you can get. And its dangerous

e-cars are deflecting the problem elsewhere. And you get to be virtuous with heated seats

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1 hour ago, CFD said:

Now now. Don't paint everyone with the same brush, please.

 

I'm not, my post should say "some" eco drivers. I can completely understand if you can an electric car or hyrbid for the lower running cost or because its a BIK factor. But when someone brands diesel as dirty without any knowledge or research whilst proudly wearing their green eco warrior badge and points fingers at others, well thats just daft. 

1 hour ago, Carrera77 said:

to be fair cycling is as green a mode of transport as you can get. And its dangerous

 

Thats not what i meant. Many cyclists, as you probably know, have their own special set of road rules where you cannot overtake within 10ft of them, they do not need to stop at lights, they can organise their own  Tour de Countryside and ride 8 abreast etc etc. Again, its not everyone, but there are many and those are the absolute worst road users. 

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As an aside, just read a review of the X5 45e - now rated for 50 miles on a charge. Battery is 24kWh rather than 9.2kWh. 50 miles would almost get me to work AND back on a single charge. Much better.

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3 hours ago, CFD said:

As an aside, just read a review of the X5 45e - now rated for 50 miles on a charge. Battery is 24kWh rather than 9.2kWh. 50 miles would almost get me to work AND back on a single charge. Much better.


they do seem to catch fire atm. Although I must say I maybe should have considered one when buying 

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On 06/12/2019 at 16:48, sjak92 said:


they do seem to catch fire atm. Although I must say I maybe should have considered one when buying 

Yeah I do tend to find being on fire a bit of a problem in a car, not a feature I look for tbh.

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18 minutes ago, CFD said:

Yeah I do tend to find being on fire a bit of a problem in a car, not a feature I look for tbh.

Although it does save on using the heater :mrgreen:

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So I've now had my 530e for a few days and initial impressions are nothing but positive. Difficult to know where to start, but perhaps with the interior which is just a lovely place to be. The car is incredibly refined and comfortable but I think the feature that has most impressed me so far is the way the petrol engine and the electric motor work together so seamlessly. The combination of M Sport suspension and 20 inch wheels gives a ride which is better than I was anticipating. Electric range seems to be settling out at around 17/18 miles which will enable me to do a number of regular trips in all electric mode. So, ok that's not going to save the planet but none the less there is something appealing about having that capability.

So far so very good!

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8 hours ago, AndyI said:

So I've now had my 530e for a few days and initial impressions are nothing but positive. Difficult to know where to start, but perhaps with the interior which is just a lovely place to be. The car is incredibly refined and comfortable but I think the feature that has most impressed me so far is the way the petrol engine and the electric motor work together so seamlessly. The combination of M Sport suspension and 20 inch wheels gives a ride which is better than I was anticipating. Electric range seems to be settling out at around 17/18 miles which will enable me to do a number of regular trips in all electric mode. So, ok that's not going to save the planet but none the less there is something appealing about having that capability.

So far so very good!

Glad you are happy. Welcome aboard!

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8 hours ago, AndyI said:

So I've now had my 530e for a few days and initial impressions are nothing but positive. Difficult to know where to start, but perhaps with the interior which is just a lovely place to be. The car is incredibly refined and comfortable but I think the feature that has most impressed me so far is the way the petrol engine and the electric motor work together so seamlessly. The combination of M Sport suspension and 20 inch wheels gives a ride which is better than I was anticipating. Electric range seems to be settling out at around 17/18 miles which will enable me to do a number of regular trips in all electric mode. So, ok that's not going to save the planet but none the less there is something appealing about having that capability.

So far so very good!

 

Can i ask if there is any particular reason to have purchased the 530e now? I have heard a few people putting it off until next summer when the LCI comes out and 530e will be replaced by 545e

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39 minutes ago, sjak92 said:

 

Can i ask if there is any particular reason to have purchased the 530e now? I have heard a few people putting it off until next summer when the LCI comes out and 530e will be replaced by 545e

 

me to, also interested in the 545e, as my PCP will end in October.  But with added range there will be a weight penalty -  if it comes over 2000kg then maybe not

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1 hour ago, Carrera77 said:

 

me to, also interested in the 545e, as my PCP will end in October.  But with added range there will be a weight penalty -  if it comes over 2000kg then maybe not

When I looked at a 745e the range wasn’t that much different to the 740 - it’s the 3l petrol that is really different. As you are lugging about the heavier engine and greater capacity the overall consumption is worse. The battery in the 745e is the same 12kWh as in the August updated 530e. They may improve the battery capacity for the 530e but I doubt it as the 745e is a 2019 model. 


The data on the ‘old’ 740e is here - https://ev-database.uk/car/1082/BMW-740e which gives it  real world of 11 to 22 miles against the NEDC range of 30 miles. The 745e NEDC range is only 35 miles so virtually the same. I think you’ll find that BMW will be selling both 545e & 530e with the difference being the 4.8s 0 - 60 vs 5.8s !


Even with the low temperatures I am getting 25 miles electric and averaging 70mpg over a tank - mixed driving but not 100 mile motorway drives. 

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18 minutes ago, Wivenhoe said:

When I looked at a 745e the range wasn’t that much different to the 740 - it’s the 3l petrol that is really different. As you are lugging about the heavier engine and greater capacity the overall consumption is worse. The battery in the 745e is the same 12kWh as in the August updated 530e. They may improve the battery capacity for the 530e but I doubt it as the 745e is a 2019 model. 


The data on the ‘old’ 740e is here - https://ev-database.uk/car/1082/BMW-740e which gives it  real world of 11 to 22 miles against the NEDC range of 30 miles. The 745e NEDC range is only 35 miles so virtually the same. I think you’ll find that BMW will be selling both 545e & 530e with the difference being the 4.8s 0 - 60 vs 5.8s !


Even with the low temperatures I am getting 25 miles electric and averaging 70mpg over a tank - mixed driving but not 100 mile motorway drives. 

The x5 has a 24kWh battery though, might that come to the 545e?

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If it's a replacement,  I would say 530e doesn't need a 3l petrol, but I guess it will appeal to those who covet capacity and cylinders. I would consider replacing mine next year, but definitely not for a larger petrol engined version, if that's the only option.

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If it's a replacement,  I would say 530e doesn't need a 3l petrol, but I guess it will appeal to those who covet capacity and cylinders. I would consider replacing mine next year, but definitely not for a larger petrol engined version, if that's the only option.

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8 hours ago, CFD said:

The x5 has a 24kWh battery though, might that come to the 545e?

Hopefully you are right but every article I have read says it will be getting the same as the 745e. However, they don’t specifically say the battery will be the same capacity. The articles I have read about the X545e say the boot capacity is quite a bit reduced but because of the size to begin with it isn’t an issue, but that may not be the case in a 5 saloon. There is a BMW article saying - 
A new model will be added to the G30 lineup at LCI: 545e xDrive. It will have the same drivetrain as the new 745e, slightly detuned to 375hp."

 

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