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Innovadrive NXG-39 / OEM look Double DIN Fascia

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Hi everyone,

 

I'm pleased to announce the first custom manufactured solution from Innovadrive for BMW E39 owners!

 

The BMW E39 5 series OEM audio systems and packages have become outdated in recent years due to the fast paced nature of the car audio and electronics industry. Many owners have faced the dilemma of wanting to upgrade their cars to have the latest audio and safety features, but have been reluctant to lose the aesthetics within the dashboard. This issue has now been resolved with a new solution which combines the best of both worlds - the very latest technology and an OEM look !

 

The Innovadrive NXG-39 is a combination fascia and fitting kit allowing a double DIN head unit to be installed whilst maintaining the design aesthetic of the sought after OEM 16:9 monitor fitted to some E39's optioned at the factory. 

 

Features & Highlights

* Combined fascia & fitting kit - Designed primarily for the latest generation of shallow depth head units the NXG-39 is a single piece solution. No extra fitting kits are required to be purchased and installed, additionally, the existing mounting holes in the dash pieces are utilized to securely mount it. The fitting process reqires a modest level of technical knowledge in order remove/refit the car's cabin trim and to make mounting holes on the fascia's inner mounting panels. The locations of those holes would be determined by whichever head unit is chosen.

 

* Design - Close resemblance to the OEM button and rotary knob sizing, shape and press feel to match the OEM 16:9 monitor. The rest of the design has been proportionally altered whilst cleverly maintaining OEM styling and aesthetics to suit the fitment of a larger double DIN head unit. Dimmable backlighting when connected to the cars loom is integrated along with a close resemblence to the car's original dash backlight colour. The laser etching for the characters and symbols is extremely precise as would be expected at this level of quality. The full cycle of design, CAD modeling, prototyping, manufacturing and finishing has all been in partnership with UK based automotive manufacturing specialists. Innovadrive's close involvement with each of these stages maintains very high quality standards and are similarly trusted by some of the worlds most famous marques such as Bentley, Jaguar Land Rover, Aston Martin, Rolls Royce etc.

 

* Strength & Resilience - An over engineered design results in an extremely sturdy item using the correct automotive grade materials and components throughout. Japanese (Matsushita) soft press buttons and LED's are specified for the PCB and the overall design of the electronics components. The fascia's strength is derived using CAD modeling where the best levels of strength were acheived for the entire piece taking into account technical characteristics of the actual material and moulding process. 

 

* Automotive grade finishing - The specific automotive interior paint used to give a very high quality and robust finish has a light texture feel to it and is found in some of the worlds finest automobile manufacturers vehicles. Technical characteristics include excellent levels of UV, temperature and humidity resistance along with common contaminants often found in cars from different climates around the globe. 

 

* Future development - A 'phase' 2 which is currently in initial stages of R&D - the button symbols and characters can be changed to custom choices as the PCB can recognise which button has been pressed. A separate control/interface unit can interpret those and can then subsequently be used to control other aftermarket products/features such as, heated seats, massaging seats, air ride controllers, TPMS systems etc. The development process will also evaluate the potential to relocate the OEM ASC, DSC, Sport, Window Blind switches.

 

Price: £239 inc UK delivery. Please get in touch if your location is in a higher delivery charge location or international for a customised shipping quote.

 

LAUNCH OFFER - 15% off for the first five BMW5 Gold Members ! (Please reply below to this thread with your name)

 

Pictures:

NXG-39 & Parrot Asteroid Smart installed in my own car

 

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NXG-39 & Alpine iLX-700 installed in an M5

 

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FAQ's

* Q - Can I fit a standard depth double DIN head unit? A - Absolutely! Just the modification to the cars airbox to make the space needed for the extra depth of the head unit is required to be done. Due to the strength of the NXG-39 design, there's no extra expense to get a fitting kit to hold the deeper head unit in place. 

* Q - What do the buttons do? A - The buttons and rotary knob detail are for aesthetic purposes in order to give as best an OEM look to the fascia as possible. The minimum design specification was to have the buttons as backlit, dimmable and pressable. Future development and options means that the button caps can be swapped and the PCB connected to an interface unit to which specific aftermarket products can be connected and controlled. Innovadrive is currently developing these elements!

* Q - Can I fit my own screen panel and make use of the buttons the way I want? A - Definitely! with the NXG-39, you can choose which hardware you'd like to fit giving flexibility to any personal projects you may have in mind. 

* Q - Why aren't there any fixing holes on the inner panels? A - Due to the myriad of head units, screens and other modular displays available and their differing fixing mount locations too many pre-made holes would need to be incorporated into those fixing panels. 

* Q - Is the material easily drillable to make holes when installing? A - Yes, using a good sharp drill bit means only modest pressure and spin speed is needed when using a small drill.

* Q - When I switch the car lights on but the head unit is off, do the buttons illuminate? A - Yes! When connected to the correct panel illumination wire in the cars wiring loom. The intensity can also be varied by using the car's dimming wheel.

* Q - Whats the dimensions of the area to fit a head unit into? A - In order to fit a head unit like in the pictures, the bezel around it's screen panel needs measure within 172 x 96 mm. If a head unit's bezel dimension is slightly larger, then using a sharp file, some material can be removed to have the bezel fit snugly.

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Cheers, Dennis!

Edited by DennisCooper

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21 hours ago, adamhearn said:

 I thought it’d be expensive but you’ve even exceeded my expectation. I’m sure you’ll sell some but not to me :rolleyes:

 

I've bought several different fascia types for my E39. Some costing almost £100. They don't have the OEM design of the BMW version, or the added electronic for back lighting. I'd say the price is very good for those wanting to retain OE looks with an aftermarket headunit.

 

It solves a problem as it's the only one available. The rest just don't look right in the E39 with all the blank plastic.

 

After months of searching for a OE style fascia this is the answer to my issue.

Edited by stu08

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Hi,

 

Adamhearn - Pricing is always something which needs careful consideration. To give you some context, there's other E39 specific fascia's which vary in price from £25 or so to around £160'ish. As Stu mentions above, none have any buttons/illumination for a much closer OEM look and you'd need to fabricate your own secure fitting solution. Some are oddly shaped and a little flimsy, the most expensive one requiring the cutting of the airbox to fit the mounting bracket. If a car audio shop needs to do that, then you'd be looking at perhaps 2/3 hours of labour charges on top. The NX-G39 I've designed to include the fitting solution for both traditional depth Double DIN and the latest shallow depth ones, there's nothing separate to fabricate/buy and you potentially save on any labour costs if professional fitting is needed as I'd say an hours worth of time is what would be charged. There's a few similar solutions for other brand and specific cars , one for an Audi TT which has no electronics/illumination for £349. I wish you good luck with your audio upgrade plan if it's my solution or any of the other existing ones that you go with. 

 

Dan101 - There's two internal panels which are blank and leave perhaps 5-7mm gap to the head unit chassis. Given there's different head units out there which all have multiple screw holes, it's not feasible for me to have many holes drilled at manufacture. By looking at the head unit chosen to be used and test fitting, it can be determining where on the panel holes can be drilled to match the mounting holes on the head unit chassis. Some Hex head screws/bolts can be then used to securely fix the head unit in place. Some pics below;

 

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DIY fitting ease was integral to my design and I'd say a modest level of DIY competence is needed. The head unit is first affixed to the NX-G39 and then the complete package installed into the car's dash. 

 

Stu08 - I have all the same unit's you purchased as well !  Will try to modify them to re-purpose them somehow !

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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Dennis. I have been watching your development of this with fascination since we spoke about this some time ago. 

 

I am so so pleased that this has finally been realised and all your exceptional hard work has paid off. Very impressive and very well priced. 

 

All the best. 

 

 

 

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Hi Oberlointment,

 

Thank you for your kind words there!

 

I wanted to develop a solution that is high quality and to OEM specification levels after seeing the poor quality/design existing solutions for the E39. It has been challenging at time for various aspects, but I'm very happy to have overcome them in order to keep the quality levels how I envisioned them!

 

Once more, I really appreciate your compliment!

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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This looks pretty impressive Dennis. I will wait to see how it works with a DSP equipped car before I commit.
Very interested if I can keep my original speakers etc.

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15 hours ago, M5 Russ said:

This looks pretty impressive Dennis. I will wait to see how it works with a DSP equipped car before I commit.
Very interested if I can keep my original speakers etc.

What is for sale is a faceplate with buttons that are [now at least] for aesthetics only.

 

I'd imagine you could keep the speakers if you ran extension cables from the ISO connector on the back of the headunit to the boot [where the DSP is] so you could connect up to the speaker loom. Whether that's a sensible choice is up to you.

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Hi,

 

Russ - As per Adam's post, my solution is a fascia/fitting kit that allows secure installation of a double DIN head unit and which also provides OEM aesthetics and back lighting. The choice of head unit remains with the owner. There's no established and reputable car audio head unit brands which are specific to the E39 and it's various systems i.e no Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood, Sony etc. If you wish to retain the DSP OEM amp/speaker setup then you will need to look at the Dynavin N6/N7 or Avin Avant 4. 

 

Adam - What you mention there won't work directly, the OEM DSP amplifier needs signals via the iBus to remain switched on and also internally, the DSP amplifier uses crossovers to send the right range of frequencies to the correct driver. The two units I mention above have the facility to support the OEM DSP amp, a bit clunky though but firmware updates do help. All the other chinese units don't have this capability.I think theres' a more involved workaround type of integration which involves some cutting and splicing of cables in specific points but since the Dynavin/Avin unit, those wishing to keep the OEM DSP drivers will buy those. 

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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Nice work Dennis, it looks like a top quality product. As you know I’m an Intravee man (and still have the Lumidock I bought off you years ago), in fact I’ve just bought an Alpine PXA-H100 so might need some sub help in the near future :)

 

However if I was in the market for a double DIN fascia I’d be ordering one of these, all the best with your new venture,

 

Barry

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Hi Barry,

 

Thank you for the positive message ! 

 

I do remember your preference is the OEM setup and Intravee and the custom Alpina LumiDock I did for you! Shortly after that, LumiDock USA went silent and I've not heard from them after trying to contact them. Given that in the last few weeks, there's rumours of a new iPod possibly being released, I will look to see what their sizing is like and the connector and I will evaluate on making LumiDock's. 

 

Now that you've got the PXA-H100, you'll need to check the various build threads and check the Intravee forum and hopefully Richard P will be able to advise you on how to get it setup, interfaced and connected to the audio system you have planned. I've heard only a couple of E39's that went this route Richard's own M5, Maca's M5 and another M5 owner. This route gets the best from the OEM setup by extractign the audio signal at it's best/cleanest point i.e prior to any processing/D to A conversion & Amplification. By then passing that 'clean' signal to high quality amplifiers and speakers, you can get a really good audio performance assuming everything is installed and setup correctly/well. For the Intravee and setup/install side of things, speak to RichardP, when it comes to choosing the quality amplifiers.speakers and install aspects, I'll gladly help/advise based on what you'd like to achieve. 

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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@DennisCooper now my M5 is officially back on the road, I now see an audio system upgrade on the horizon once I have recuperated some funds! I have tried to live with the standard system but it just does not cut the mustard in todays age!

 

Looks like you have developed an amazing product, perfect for the OEM+ look! 

 

Are there any updates in regards to the controls on the fascia being able to control aftermarket headunits? I am looking at the Pioneer AVH-Z9200DAB ...

 

 

Edited by R44M BM

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Hi R44M BM,

 

Thanks you for the kind words !

 

To respond back to your couple of points;

 

1. I decided to leave any integration projects to individual owners if they decide to do something like this. To reverse engineer, design and create an interface to a head unit properly is very expensive to do and when you then consider each brand has multiple head units then the cost is the same to repeat the process for those units. Given then that there's unit's from Alpine, Kenwood, Pioneer, JVC, Sony etc, then there's a lot more to cover. Then on top of that, the costs would be repeated each year when each brand brings out a new range to the market. I've been quoted around £400+VAT per day with around 7-10 days timeframes for each head unit. As you can perhaps calculate, it's a lot of money. From an ergonomics point of view, if you are going to reach over with your hand to the head unit controls, then what's the point of moving an inch or two more to hit the buttons on the fascia ?. You could perhaps DIY if your electronics testing and modifying skills allow it or, perhaps give your chosen head unit to an independent lower priced electronics specialist who could do the reverse engineering for you - both these ways will be a lot cheaper to do if you must do this. 

 

2. I designed the fascia/fitting kit with a focus on the expanding range of shallow depth double DIN head units. That said, for those who choose a traditional depth head unit and who don't mind modifying/cutting the airbox, then my fascia will still securely hold such a unit in place and there's no need for extra costs/time/materials for fabricating something like you have to do with many other E39 fascia's on the market. 

 

When you are ready, I'm happy to help discuss and evaluate what you'd like to achieve with your audio upgrade plans and can recommend independent and very well reputed car audio specialists to get more information/research.

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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Probably some where in the thread but cannot see..... what’s the size of the opening?

I will look to find an aftermarket headunit that’s touch screen/ with no buttons....should give the cleanest look.

nice product.

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Hi,

 

The size of the aperture through which the chosen double DIN unit's front face and bezel should/could fit through is 172x96mm. There is a little bit of 'flex' with the top bar in case a unit is just a tiny bit larger, but I'd suggest not trying to bend it too much as there's more chance it'll 'snap' and give way. My suggestion is if there's a head unit or a TFT display panel/screen which is just that tiny bit too large, is to use a sharp file to gradually file away some of the material in order to have it fit snugly. 

 

For shallow depth head units, the ones I know 100% will fit, gleaned from feedback from customers so far are;

 

Parrot Asteroid Smart

Alpine iLX-700

Alpine iLX-W650 (USA model only so would need to be imported)

Kenwood DMX 7018DABS

Kenwood Excelon DMX 706S (USA model only so would need to be imported)

 

There's other models like the Kenwood DMX 110BT, DMX125 DAB, Sony XAV-AX3005, Sony XAV -AX1000 which are Shallow Depth but I don't know the exact dimensions of the screen bezel on them. There's a new modular type Pioneer unit, the SPH-EVO62DAB which allows the control unit to be installed elsewhere in the car and the monitor/screen part only installed in the dash area. Again, I don't have the dimensions of the monitor part bezel as yet. I'm hoping to get this information from my contacts at each brands UK HQ's soon. 

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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Hi,

 

One of the forum members here is running the DMX7018DABS with the NXG-39. The fascia is in stock yes. Just prior to dispatch, I do a final procedure and then out it goes !

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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