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Hi. Recently bought a 520d m sport (2014)  Beautiful car. It needs a service and im looking at specialists. It has 60k and only showing one dealer service on idrive. May have had more from non dealer possibly. 

 

So one specialist uses all genuine bmw parts, castrol oil. Price came to £370, that includes vehicle check, all filters and oil of course. This specialist is also able to update idrive with his own record. 

 

2nd specialist uses all mann filters and long life 04 Bmw grade comma syner -z c3 5w30 fully synthetic. He cant update idrive but does update the electronic service history which can be accessed through connected bmw portal online. This one quoted £230

..so quite a difference. 

 

I would welcome any advice from more experienced bmw f10 owners. Thankyou 

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Regarding the cost you mentioned,  I paid BMW £236 for an oil change (edit and microfilter) on my F10 just last month. Ten years ago, I paid the same dealer £195 for just an oil change on my E60. Add in a vehicle check which will be another hours labour alone, air filter, pollen filters and fuel filter plus labour to fit them, then your price of £370 sounds o.k. as the filter parts I've just mentioned will be near enough a further £100.

 

I'm still using BMW for servicing as I want a stamp in my book.

 

When I start diy servicing, I will probably still buy BMW parts (I have a good relationship with my local parts dept) and reference the invoices in the service book.

 

I did similar on my E60, as it got older I bought OEM parts (from Eurocar parts) for some things like brake pads and air filters. Same brand as BMW supplied bits but not in a BMW box which can jack up the price. Critical parts like oil filters I still bought from BMW as it was only a few pence in the price difference. Mann are OEM so you won't go wrong with that.

 

For piece of mind use a specialist that will fit genuine parts. But don't rule out OEM parts if they are significantly cheaper.  Things like suspension arms and wheel bearings can be almost half the price bought elsewhere and it's the same bit as if supplied by BMW. BMW parts also carry a two year warranty.

 

Servicing methods can be very subjective on cars, but main advice for I would say is to get your oil changed atleast once a year or 10,000 miles and not BMWs recommendation to keep the turbo and chains sweet. And yes, make sure it's LL04 oil that gets poured in. Doesn't matter which make as long as it's LL04 spec.

Edited by 535i Andrew
Forgot recent service included microfilter.

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What actually is a "vehicle check''and why does it take so long?

Is it worthwhile?

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Vehicle Check Service Description

 
  • A full inspection of your vehicle is carried out
  • All fluids will be checked and topped up if required
  • All wheels and tyres will be checked for damage, wear and tyre pressure
  • All electrical systems and lights will be checked for damage and correct set up
  • Headlights will be adjusted if required
  • All seat belts will be checked for wear and safe operation
  • A road test will be carried out if required
  • Relevant service light reset
  • Recommended after first 3 years from registration then every 2 years thereafter
  • £79

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The above is taken direct from BMW website.  

On my car they have done the vehicle check every service.  This will be the first time I am paying for a service and my vehicle check still has 20k miles remaining on the idrive.  So it will not be done, even though they tried to push this check on me.  I can check my own coolant levels and tyre wear, lights and electrical systems so for me this can be left.

 

By the sounds of it, it is what would be expected in a normal service?

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2 hours ago, 535i Andrew said:

Regarding the cost you mentioned,  I paid BMW £236 for an oil change on my F10 just last month. Ten years ago, I paid the same dealer £195 for just an oil change on my E60. Add in a vehicle check which will be another hours labour alone, air filter, pollen filters and fuel filter plus labour to fit them, then your price of £370 sounds o.k. as the filter parts I've just mentioned will be near enough a further £100.

 

I'm still using BMW for servicing as I want a stamp in my book.

 

When I start diy servicing, I will probably still buy BMW parts (I have a good relationship with my local parts dept) and reference the invoices in the service book.

 

I did similar on my E60, as it got older I bought OEM parts (from Eurocar parts) for some things like brake pads and air filters. Same brand as BMW supplied bits but not in a BMW box which can jack up the price. Critical parts like oil filters I still bought from BMW as it was only a few pence in the price difference. Mann are OEM so you won't go wrong with that.

 

For piece of mind use a specialist that will fit genuine parts. But don't rule out OEM parts if they are significantly cheaper.  Things like suspension arms and wheel bearings can be almost half the price bought elsewhere and it's the same bit as if supplied by BMW. BMW parts also carry a two year warranty.

 

Servicing methods can be very subjective on cars, but main advice for I would say is to get your oil changed atleast once a year or 10,000 miles and not BMWs recommendation to keep the turbo and chains sweet. And yes, make sure it's LL04 oil that gets poured in. Doesn't matter which make as long as it's LL04 spec.

 

Thanks Andrew. Given the difference is £140, i might go with specialist who uses MANN filters rather than BMW branded parts. Not too fussed about whats showing on idrive as long as i got receipts and a paper log somewhere. Thanks for advice

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31 minutes ago, Enzo503 said:

Vehicle Check Service Description

 
  • A full inspection of your vehicle is carried out
  • All fluids will be checked and topped up if required
  • All wheels and tyres will be checked for damage, wear and tyre pressure
  • All electrical systems and lights will be checked for damage and correct set up
  • Headlights will be adjusted if required
  • All seat belts will be checked for wear and safe operation
  • A road test will be carried out if required
  • Relevant service light reset
  • Recommended after first 3 years from registration then every 2 years thereafter
  • £79

 

Doesnt seem to add a lot to the sort of things I do myself (and a lot more often than every couple of years or so).

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31 minutes ago, Boba said:

 

Doesnt seem to add a lot to the sort of things I do myself (and a lot more often than every couple of years or so).

 

+1 add in clearing leaves from various places under bonnet, checking for water ingress in cabin and boot, inspecting around engine for any signs of oil or coolant leaks, inspecting under car for condition of exhaust and diff mounts, trickle charge battery overnight periodically.

 

No way was I going to pay £79 to BMW to do less of an inspection than I already do every few months. Not the cost but more the hassle as they always seem to need the car for a full day. And I reckon they don't actually do the checks they claim anyway.

 

My 59k 530i is DIY servicing now, and has been interim serviced by me since 40k (extra oil change between CBS, annual air filter).

 

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Diy interims sound good. If anyone ever willing to show how to do this then that would be great. I have seen YouTube vids but always better in person. And oil extraction pump seem to make servicing even easier 

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31 minutes ago, Someone said:

And oil extraction pump seem to make servicing even easier 

 

Hmmm - not so sure of that one though, I like to feel that anything that's down there has a decent chance of being flushed out.

 

Mind you I'm perhaps letting my age show here. At one time I used to run flushing oil through when doing an oil change - do you even get such stuff any more? :oops:

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3 hours ago, 535i Andrew said:

I'm still using BMW for servicing as I want a stamp in my book. When I start diy servicing, I will probably still buy BMW parts (I have a good relationship with my local parts dept) and reference the invoices in the service book.

 

Unless your a vat registered service centre, don't make any entries in the service book yourself. You WILL have problems when claiming under the anti-corrosion warranty or for any goodwill.  £236 with microfilter?

 

2 hours ago, Enzo503 said:

On my car they have done the vehicle check every service. 

 

You're confusing 'Health Check' with Vehicle Check, although health check seems to be more thorough with a video recording sent to your email.

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57 minutes ago, Boba said:

 

Hmmm - not so sure of that one though, I like to feel that anything that's down there has a decent chance of being flushed out.

 

Mind you I'm perhaps letting my age show here. At one time I used to run flushing oil through when doing an oil change - do you even get such stuff any more? :oops:

 

i guess gravity laws do provide comfort i.e. drain oil from underneath as it will all come out. But tests on these pumps show they get almost 100% of all oil out ie good as sum plug

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1 hour ago, jake13 said:

 

Unless your a vat registered service centre, don't make any entries in the service book yourself. You WILL have problems when claiming under the anti-corrosion warranty or for any goodwill.  

 

Oops. Guess I could just "lose" the service book.

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1 hour ago, jake13 said:

 

Unless your a vat registered service centre, don't make any entries in the service book yourself. You WILL have problems when claiming under the anti-corrosion warranty or for any goodwill.  £236 with microfilter?

 

 

Apologies, yes it was with microfilter for that price.

 

Thanks for that tip. I hadn't quite decided on filling out the service book. I haven't for when I replaced the air filter, but wrote on the invoice the date and mileage when fitted.

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22 minutes ago, jake13 said:

BMW Servicing Price:

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So where is my car then? :D

 

I know it's not that common but surely even BMW must acknowledge it's existence? Lol.

 

Thats a big price difference for four spark plugs and another air filter between a 528i and a 550i service....as everything is the same on a 550i as a 528i.....

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4 minutes ago, 535i Andrew said:

 

So where is my car then? :D

 

I know it's not that common but surely even BMW must acknowledge it's existence? Lol.

 

Thats a big price difference for four spark plugs and another air filter between a 528i and a 550i service....as everything is the same on a 550i as a 528i.....

 

Tells me to contact the nearest retailer :-(. On 'offer' they don't charge this f*** £19 standard scope rip off.

 

You have a go https://www.bmw-service.co.uk

 

make up the reg & mileage and use the drop down menus. for example aa69xxx ; 12000

 

 

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3 hours ago, jake13 said:

You're confusing 'Health Check' with Vehicle Check, although health check seems to be more thorough with a video recording sent to your email.

 

 

No confusion on my part.  All the servicing that has been done on the vehicle is on the idrive.  It states what has been done and when, even states if the service was "late" and by how many miles it was late.

 

 

 

I also do interim oil changes myself with filter so my car gets new oil every 9-10k miles.   Mine has hit 80k now so I will be looking at getting the auto box oil serviced soon.

  

 

 

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^Likewise, that was my first service I've paid for in my car. The fact that you can get quotes online from BMW themselves  should limit the opportunity for them to charge you for stuff you don't need.

 

Going from the E39 to E60 with its CBS, meant I didn't get phone calls from the dealer saying I need new front brakes as the CBS on the idrive says otherwise.

 

I got really annoyed with a dealer on my E39. In for a service and got told I needed new front discs and pads. I declined their offer and bought them myself, I had seen they were getting worm but still o.k. The parts were in the boot when it went back to the same dealer 9-10,000 miles later for another service. On collecting the car I asked about the condition of the front brakes and was told they were fine. I then asked why at the last service I was told I need new ones. The service manager looked very sheepish and mumbled something about that's just mechanics opinions. 

 

That dealer then went on to be bought by Douglas Park and the servicing quality really declined after that.

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All garages try it on a bit and in my experience BMW service are no different. I got peed off with Harry Fairbairn Kirkcaldy invariable charging OTT for filling the windscreen wash of my E39 every time. (Not a big cost, just the meanness of it as most decent dealers will suck up the insignificant cost as goodwill) so one time I brimmed the thing in their car park before booking in. Still charged me for it so I tore them off a strip. That kind of barefaced profiteering really gets to me.

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26 minutes ago, Boba said:

charging OTT for filling the windscreen wash of my E39 every time. (Not a big cost, just the meanness of it as most decent dealers will suck up the insignificant cost as goodwill) so one time I brimmed the thing in their car park before booking in. 

 

Yeah I did that too and was observed by the dealers staff doing just that on my E39.

 

They still said they topped it up, after they used 50ml of it to check the thing worked! Fook off!

 

It really boiled my piss. That was the same dealer as my last post.

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