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Is it wrong that I want Liz Kendall to win, as I find her oddly attractive?

 

Gotta love shallow politics man!

 

With my serious head on, I actually like Andy Burnham, and I think he's the only one who has a chance of turning the current joke of a Labour Party into anything like electable again. Jeremy Corbyn looks like Worzel Gummidge's only slightly better dressed brother, and Yvette Cooper, well, just no. Can't help balking at the thought of who she shares a Horlicks at bedtime with.

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Whoever they choose they need to do it quick. All this delay and in-fighting have turned them into a complete joke. Sad state of affairs when the SNP is the only credible opposition to Cameron and co.

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It's a very very sad situation the party is in and unfortunately out of all the candidates nobody is a good choice...

Looks like we are stuck with Cameron and the rest of them for a while I hate to say.

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I hope this Corbyn bloke gets in, i've heard that if he does, they may never win an election for years and years. :razz:

That be two of us hoping the same.

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Some people are fanatic labour supporters because of the old thatcher ere. I really don't know why they are now. I think labour is unrecognisable from days gone by. And are now a massive wet lettice.

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I think labour is unrecognisable from days gone by. And are now a massive wet lettice.

I have to agree and it is a shame. Particularly for those on this very forum who have had to ask for help with employment law. 

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^^^

Maybe some truth in this but what's the alternative? Conservative??

Would rather stick pins in my eyes.

I think you need to be realistic mate. It' not like the country has ground to a halt just because one party or another is in. Fuck me we could live in Zimbabwe. Think how shit it is over there. Both sides have good and bad points. What would be good would be if all the parties stopped yelling and screaming like little children in commons (ever listened to PM Q's) and actually tried to come up with laws that benefitted everyone a little. Too right is bad and too left is bad. Which leaves the middle but for some reason neither want to occupy that. People on low income need help. companies need lower taxes to help them flourish an employ more people. Finding a balance is the key. Not blindly following one party because of something that happened in the 80's FFS I was born in 1985..... Edited by Joss

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Maybe some truth in this but what's the alternative? Conservative??

Would rather stick pins in my eyes.

No party is perfect I agree. But unfortunately at the moment they are the only credible alternative.

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Most of you weren't about for this

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Or what preceded it.

The red robbos, Arthur Scargill. The country was a laughing stock.

The alternative ? Get out and graft, keep more of your money. Bit of a no brainier really.

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The problem is and I hate to say this the Conservatives have taken on some of the responsibilities that you would associate with Labour, taking the middle ground and appearing to be on the side of the working man.

 

Unfortunately for Labour they got it out there first and Labour have got no comeback because their policies would be similar.

 

There is no lolly for 2nd place, so they need to think of something completely new Doh! 

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Who said I was following labour because of what happened in the 1980's???

What evidence do you base that point on?

I didn't say who you followed, and don't really give a fuck anyway. What I am pointing out,is that the labour left ( which is where it's likely to go under Corbyn) is the same dictat collection of tossers that wrecked the country in the 70's.

Socialism doesn't work, never has, never will. Takes a modicum of savvy to work it out though.

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I didn't say who you followed, and don't really give a fuck anyway. What I am pointing out,is that the labour left ( which is where it's likely to go under Corbyn) is the same dictat collection of tossers that wrecked the country in the 70's.

Socialism doesn't work, never has, never will. Takes a modicum of savvy to work it out though.

Exactly!

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I didn't say who you followed, and don't really give a fuck anyway. What I am pointing out,is that the labour left ( which is where it's likely to go under Corbyn) is the same dictat collection of tossers that wrecked the country in the 70's.

Socialism doesn't work, never has, never will. Takes a modicum of savvy to work it out though.

I'd like to point out that I don't vote labour. Then I'd like to point out that this is the biggest piece of shit I ever read. The good news is that at least there is a discussion. 

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Ahh Roofer...doesn't take much for you to start lowering the tone does it. Your absolutely the type of person who thinks he is right in everything he says and when challenged actually takes offence.

I'm all up for a discussion on a civilised and decent forum but some people see red and lower the tone...very sad indeed.

I think it's good to have a debate, just because people vote conservative it doesn't make them right in the arguments they raise its simply their own views. In the same way I vote labour, it's my views and my arguments and that's what I stand by.

I'd like to think we are all grown up enough to discuss without pointing fun, ridiculing and just being plains rude.

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Even though I don't like most of Jeremy Corbyn's politics, I do like the fact that he is a man of his principles and he doesn't follow fads or trends. You know what you are getting when you vote for this guy.  I also like his opinions on animal welfare. I don't think it would be such a disaster as people make out, voters don't want to vote for the centre ground anymore. Socialists want to vote for socialists and Kendall and Burnham et al are just more of the same Blairites.

Edited by Piper

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Ahh Roofer...doesn't take much for you to start lowering the tone does it. Your absolutely the type of person who thinks he is right in everything he says and when challenged actually takes offence.

I'm all up for a discussion on a civilised and decent forum but some people see red and lower the tone...very sad indeed.

I think it's good to have a debate, just because people vote conservative it doesn't make them right in the arguments they raise its simply their own views. In the same way I vote labour, it's my views and my arguments and that's what I stand by.

I'd like to think we are all grown up enough to discuss without pointing fun, ridiculing and just being plains rude.

I don't think I'm right at all, just speaking from lived experience. You however, being a youngster, don't have a clue. But as long as you are happy being Reg Varney, then good luck to you.

The Conservatives are far from ideal, but there isn't a viable alternative . And at the end of the day, I really don't want to be giving 80p in the pound of my hard earned to a collection of numpties who will spend it buying Socialists.

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Even though I don't like most of Jeremy Corbyn's politics, I do like the fact that he is a man of his principles and he doesn't follow fads or trends. You know what you are getting when you vote for this guy. I also like his opinions on animal welfare. I don't think it would be such a disaster as people make out, voters don't want to vote for the centre ground anymore. Socialists want to vote for socialists and Kendall and Burnham et al are just more of the same Blairites.

The thing is, the majority of the electorate are in the middle ground. Too far left or too far right makes you unelectable.

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