Zu187

Trans fault

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Hope someone can help.

Driving on m1, about 1 hour into the journey when i decided to put my foot down, got to about 3000 rpm and trans mission fault came up, loss of all gears. Pulled up and switched off, back on fault cleared. Done it a few more times as i wanted to replicate it. Each time same thing. Put it on snap on diagnostics. Error code 4f85 ratio monitoring clutch e.

I think e is for 5th/6th gear.

Any help would be appreciated.

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You have a slipping clutch pack. If luck is on your side it could just be low/dirty trans oil, but I wouldn't like to take that bet. Get the car to a transmission specialist for further advice.

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Update. Clutch slipping in 5th and 6th. Looking at 2 1/2 grand. Lets see the warranty company try and get out of this.

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Update. Clutch slipping in 5th and 6th. Looking at 2 1/2 grand. Lets see the warranty company try and get out of this.

 

Sure - wear and tear !!  That may well be their response, if they are one of the difficult companies.

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Yep, your right. They will try and go down that route. My argument is that its only done 65k and surely cluthes from the 1st to the fourth would go first as they are used the most.

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Yes, at 65k I think you have a strong case. The normal life of a transmission is far longer, and they know that too.

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What year is your car ?

 

Will they be investigating what caused it ? Because surely that's not normal at 65k ?

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Its 2007. 530d m sport lci.

I got a funny feeling they will want me to pay for having the tranny removed and opened, and then they will send a engineer down.

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That is really low mileage to be experiencing clutch wear. Has you car got a towbar fitted?. If s,o it could have been dragging caravans or horseboxes or who knows what else which won't have done the gearbox any favours.

 

I would be surprised if the warranty company engineer happens to also be a ZF specialist. That could just be a stalling tactic as they will hope you won't want to pay out up front for gearbox removal.

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No tow bar at all. Thats what am worried about. Paying up front and then they turn around and say no. I would rather part ex the car.

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Its 2007. 530d m sport lci.

I got a funny feeling they will want me to pay for having the tranny removed and opened, and then they will send a engineer down.

 

Unfortunately thats exactly what will happen. The process normally goes:

 

Your company submit a warranty claim on your behalf (as they are the specialists)

The warranty company will want to send an engineer to inspect it so it has to be available for inspection.

Here is your dilema, take out the box and strip down at your cost so the warranty company can inspect....if they say yes then all is good but they specialise in excuses and if they say no youre left with a car on ramps a box that needs rebuilding a warranty company that have walked away from the problem and your specialist will get paid no matter what as what else are you going to do but get it repaired on your money.

 

I wish you luck and hope you can build a strong case but I fear you may be clashing opinions with the warranty company on this one.

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Yes it has been remapped when dpf was removed 3 months ago. But i havent got a heavy foot.

 

Well, if the warranty company are aware of that, you almost certainly won't have a claim. Check your policy and see what it says about modifications.

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Would it be possible that the car is trying to deliver to much torque, and it simply shuts down.

 

 

There are cars with your gearbox knocking out well over 400bhp and torque in excess of the transmission rated limit so I don't think it is due to the extra power from your remap.

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There are cars with your gearbox knocking out well over 400bhp and torque in excess of the transmission rated limit so I don't think it is due to the extra power from your remap.

 

Sure - but it will almost certainly be a valid reason for refusal of the claim.

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Sure - but it will almost certainly be a valid reason for refusal of the claim.

 

Agree they just need a small element of doubt and will use this to justify a refusal on your claim, however, unless they dig very deep how will they know you have it remapped. 

 

I think box or engine failures are the worst to claim under warranty as the variables for refusal are many.

 

Having been through a failed transmission situation myself I feel for you as I ended up backed into a corner and had to pay the £2.5k myself to get a replacement box. Basically my sump cracked, spewed all the oil out and cooked the box, warranty would not touch it!

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Am begining to think, whats the point of thease warrantys.

 

I will be honest I stopped mine as I was paying more to have it and not use it (or able to use it) than the cumulative cost of repairs if I paid it myself 

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On 22/06/2014 at 11:15 PM, Zu187 said:

Hope someone can help.

Driving on m1, about 1 hour into the journey when i decided to put my foot down, got to about 3000 rpm and trans mission fault came up, loss of all gears. Pulled up and switched off, back on fault cleared. Done it a few more times as i wanted to replicate it. Each time same thing. Put it on snap on diagnostics. Error code 4f85 ratio monitoring clutch e.

I think e is for 5th/6th gear.

 

Edited by Ujel Miah

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