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Getting steering lock off without the key


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#1 straight_6

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  • LocationSolihull

Posted 04 February 2007 - 02:59 PM

In order to move the car with no keys, I need the steering lock off, how do you remove the lock barrels on these cars, or take the steering lock off some other way, thanks very much!
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#2 Toby Unna

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 11:03 AM

i'm fairly sure you need the key in to remove the lock barrel. you do on an e30 anyway.

you can't remove the wheel with the lock on either, so disassembly is less than easy.
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#3 12quidkidinnit

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 12:58 PM

Don't know if this is any help, but I think it's the steering wheel that locks on these, not the column. If you don't mind damaging the steering wheel, you could unbolt it, then force it off. It can take a bit of effort, but it can be done. Then remove or disable the spring loaded lock pin to stop it engaging with the cog teeth at the back of the steering wheel.
* this is the Dewhurst method (butchery). There are probably better ways, but I've never had to take a lock barrel off one of these cars.

#4 stranter

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  • LocationDerby
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Posted 06 February 2007 - 01:07 PM

I know of no easy way of dismantling the steering lock or removing the steering wheel if you don't have the keys. You will need power tools! I've tried before using a lump hammer, chisel and crow bar. Just succeeded in cutting my hands. Ouch.

If you have the V5, the dealer can get you new keys IIRC, problem solved?
Stewart Tranter
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2008 Fiat Bravo

#5 Trisman

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  • LocationCowfold, Nr.Horsham, W.Sussex.
  • Occupation:Project Management, Construction industry.
  • Current Car:E39 532i Touring. 'E12 M535i.

Posted 06 February 2007 - 02:38 PM

you can't remove the wheel with the lock on either


Ummm.... not quite true!

If you don't mind damaging the steering wheel, you could unbolt it, then force it off. It can take a bit of effort, but it can be done.


Yup! Can vouch for that!! :lol:

Trisman.

Current: E39 Touring B10 3.2 Alpinalike in Oxford Green.
Alpina 3.2 engine & gearbox mit flappy paddles. 19" Alpina alloys, spoiler & interior.
M5 Brakes, roof-rail delete & stuff.
E12 M535i Kashmir Gold, 16" open-lug Alpina alloys.

Gonnie:

E31 850CSi Manual V12 insanity in Orient Blau.

E39 540i Manual in Smurf Bloo.

E24 635CSi manual. Grun. Style 5 Alloys, lowered B5 suspension.

E39 '00 530i Imola Red Sport manual.

E39 '98 528i SE Auto Arctic Silver. (237k miles!)
E28 M5 No.8. Weiss. (Now floating around German eBay).
E28 M535i NO2 Monster, Red. Now on this forum! :)
E24 635CSi, Blue,
E28 M5, Lach silver.


#6 andyb

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  • LocationIlford, Essex

Posted 06 February 2007 - 04:46 PM

Don't you just remove the small BMW roundel, and then remove the hex nut beneath that holds the wheel on.?. Might help with access to the locking mechanism - or am I talking sh1t?. :lol:
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#7 stranter

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Posted 06 February 2007 - 04:59 PM

Don't you just remove the small BMW roundel, and then remove the hex nut beneath that holds the wheel on? ...


You can do this but it's not possible to pull the steering wheel off if the steering lock is on, the thing that locks your steering wheel in place when you remove the key.

Stewart
Stewart Tranter
1987 E30 318i
2008 Fiat Bravo

#8 Toby Unna

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Posted 07 February 2007 - 01:39 PM

you can't remove the wheel with the lock on either


Ummm.... not quite true!

If you don't mind damaging the steering wheel, you could unbolt it, then force it off. It can take a bit of effort, but it can be done.


Yup! Can vouch for that!! :lol:


:D

ok, i meant you can't removed the wheel without destroying it in the process!

i used a hacksaw last time :shock:
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#9 Trisman

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  • LocationCowfold, Nr.Horsham, W.Sussex.
  • Occupation:Project Management, Construction industry.
  • Current Car:E39 532i Touring. 'E12 M535i.

Posted 07 February 2007 - 02:53 PM

I got an E28 off some local auction boys years ago for something stupid like £30 including delivery.

It was a runner, but they lost the keys!!

Brute force, a hammer & applied ignorance had the wheel off smartish (I only wanted the car for a few bits & pieces), very little damage to the wheel, the ignition-lock, & steering-lock mech were mullered...!

Eventually had the car driving round the yard!

Trisman.

Current: E39 Touring B10 3.2 Alpinalike in Oxford Green.
Alpina 3.2 engine & gearbox mit flappy paddles. 19" Alpina alloys, spoiler & interior.
M5 Brakes, roof-rail delete & stuff.
E12 M535i Kashmir Gold, 16" open-lug Alpina alloys.

Gonnie:

E31 850CSi Manual V12 insanity in Orient Blau.

E39 540i Manual in Smurf Bloo.

E24 635CSi manual. Grun. Style 5 Alloys, lowered B5 suspension.

E39 '00 530i Imola Red Sport manual.

E39 '98 528i SE Auto Arctic Silver. (237k miles!)
E28 M5 No.8. Weiss. (Now floating around German eBay).
E28 M535i NO2 Monster, Red. Now on this forum! :)
E24 635CSi, Blue,
E28 M5, Lach silver.





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