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#1 bmw.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:46 AM

Hi,

I think I have a clutch slip, the symptoms are

- slight jerk when slowing down
- not as quick to move off like normal
- yellow engine management light on
- No very good on fuel

Does a clutch slip simply mean it needs a need clutch?, if so how much would it cost to get replaced?
BMW E39 | 530i | Sport Auto | 2002

#2 Trisman

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:09 AM

I assume you have a manual now?

That doesn't sound like clutch slip...

With clutch slip, engine revs would rise without a corresponding increase in road speed.

When really bad, the engine can rev away quite badly without any increase in speed!

Plus, there isn't any reason the 'check engine' light would illuminate if it's the clutch slipping.

(Not unless it were REALLY bad & the electronics could detect a mismatch between road speed, the gear you're in & engine revs. Unless someone know to the contrary, I don't think the system will detect that).

Have you had someone plug it in to check fault codes? (& again, clutch slip won't show with a scan).

However:

If you're still got the auto, much the same applies, although eventually you'd get the trans warning light & 'limp-home' third gear only. It might be worth getting the fluid level checked.

If it IS an auto & it's goosed, reckon on either a rebuilt, new (£££!) or a decent second-hand 'box.

Edited by Trisman, 26 November 2012 - 02:01 AM.

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#3 bmw.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

Thanks for the reply.

Its an 3.0 l Auto Sport. The last time I plugged the computer it said

48 Torque Converter Clutch - Too Much Slip, and the gearbox oil temp was 74.00 degrees C.

Today the Yellow Engine Management Light had turned off, and it seems to be driving ok. But I do notice a slight jerk when the car comes to a stop, and it does kind of rev more then it moves on the road. Possible minor syptoms of clutch slip?
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#4 Nomis

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:03 PM

Autos don't have a clutch :wacko:
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#5 Justin..

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

Sounds like fluid is low?

#6 Clavurion

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:20 PM

Autos don't have a clutch :wacko:


There is a locking clutch inside the torque converter.
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#7 PeteLPG

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

  • i had the same fault on my e39 530 auto with the torque convertor clutch, try oil first as its cheapest. if not, second hand gearbox.
  • i ended up doin both

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#8 cawmere

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:25 PM

  • i had the same fault on my e39 530 auto with the torque convertor clutch, try oil first as its cheapest. if not, second hand gearbox.
  • i ended up doin both


Hi, How long did they take to replace the part?

#9 Trisman

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:52 PM

Autos do have clutches, but they're not like the clutch on a manual car.

They usually consist of multi-plate of friction material,sometimes they're one-way (lock in one direction only). Plus, the bands (metal-backed ring of friction material clamping on a drum of some kind) can be said to perform the same function as a clutch.

It does sound like your fluid is low. Worth checking quickly before the slippage gets worse! It may even be worth getting the sump dropped, new filter & new fluid. That's a lot cheaper than a new/recon (or even s/h) 'box!

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Current: E39 Touring B10 3.2 Alpinalike in Oxford Green.
Alpina 3.2 engine & gearbox mit flappy paddles. 19" Alpina alloys, spoiler & interior.
M5 Brakes, roof-rail delete & stuff.
E12 M535i Kashmir Gold, 16" open-lug Alpina alloys.

Gonnie:

E31 850CSi Manual V12 insanity in Orient Blau.

E39 540i Manual in Smurf Bloo.

E24 635CSi manual. Grun. Style 5 Alloys, lowered B5 suspension.

E39 '00 530i Imola Red Sport manual.

E39 '98 528i SE Auto Arctic Silver. (237k miles!)
E28 M5 No.8. Weiss. (Now floating around German eBay).
E28 M535i NO2 Monster, Red. Now on this forum! :)
E24 635CSi, Blue,
E28 M5, Lach silver.


#10 bmpaul

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:18 AM

Sounds like the jerk could be the g.box jerking into a lower gear just before you stop. Sounds like a good fluid change might be worth doing
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#11 PeteLPG

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:21 AM

Hi, How long did they take to replace the part?


i left it with my mechanic but replacing the gearbox oil and filter wasnt huge job, bout an hour i think from memory
when that hadnt solved the problem, i left the car with him, sourced a gearbox (got it ridiculously cheap after a few del-boy dealings!)
i think it was about half a day job, maybe bit longer to replace the gearbox.

depends on who you have local to you, who you have used, and who you trust

gd luck with it
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#12 PeteLPG

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:24 AM

id defo do the oil first as you may be lucky and cure the problem before it means gearbox replacement
BUT
when i bought the car, i thought it would most likely need a new gearbox so allowed for that accordingly
when my gearbox did its jerking thing, it threw the car into limp mode but i dont ever remember seeing an engine managemen light on, even when the car was stuck in 2nd or 3rd gear. All it did was rev its conkers off, depending on speed but i didnt get the engine light on
E39 530 M Sport Auto LPG - Black and gassed
E39 523 Auto LPG - sold
E36 Convertible LPG Alpina Rep - sold
Various E36's and E46's all sold or gone to autoheaven


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