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E39 Lumbar support Install Guide 'How to'

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Just a couple of additional pictures for the thread.

 

Seat base with pump and hoses installed

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Backrest with bladders mat in place (it takes some extra time and finesse to slide it in if you have the side to side metal reinforcement)

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Diverter valve in place with all the wiring and hoses connected.

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Edited by Juan Ignacio Caino

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Excellent install. I wonder if you can assist me. I have just bought this kit from a forum member and will be installing in a few weeks. I have manual seats but they are heated. Does this mean that I have the power cables already present in the seats or will I have to run new ones?

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1 hour ago, oberlointment said:

Excellent install. I wonder if you can assist me. I have just bought this kit from a forum member and will be installing in a few weeks. I have manual seats but they are heated. Does this mean that I have the power cables already present in the seats or will I have to run new ones?

 

I'm sure more knowledgeable people will chime in soon, as far as I'm concerned I've never seen a manual seats e39. My car had one memory seat and one electric seat (driver and passenger respectively). The driver's had all the cables for the non present features like lumbar support and heat. The passenger had just the cables it needed for running what it had installed.

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My 2001 car had heated and electric adjustment sports seats but wasn't pre-wired for the lumbar. Reading some posts on Bimmerforums etc it looks like US spec cars might have been. Easiest way to check is pop off the switch cover and see if the lumbar connector is there but I doubt it.

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My 2001 car had heated and electric adjustment sports seats but wasn't pre-wired for the lumbar. Reading some posts on Bimmerforums etc it looks like US spec cars might have been. Easiest way to check is pop off the switch cover and see if the lumbar connector is there but I doubt it.

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Or remove the seat connector flip up tray cover and feel for the pump connector, about 3" to 4" away from the large seat connector.

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I eventually got round to installing the lumbar in my passenger seat this weekend and as I was fitting the wiring I realised that the wiring is different lengths for driver and passenger seats! When I fitted the driver side last year it was an incredibly tight fit to install the seat switch and now I know why. I switched the wiring over and it made re-fitting the seat plastic so much easier.  

 

Both the side plastic seat covers that house the switches were scratched on mine so it's worth noting that both sides can be purchased for just £37.45inc 

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I eventually got round to installing the lumbar in my passenger seat this weekend and as I was fitting the wiring I realised that the wiring is different lengths for driver and passenger seats! When I fitted the driver side last year it was an incredibly tight fit to install the seat switch and now I know why. I switched the wiring over and it made re-fitting the seat plastic so much easier.  

 

Both the side plastic seat covers that house the switches were scratched on mine so it's worth noting that both sides can be purchased for just £37.45inc 

Wiring and piping. My passenger's seat install was the first one of them seats and I postponed the drivers on account of estimated needed time, when I finally got to it I discovered it was already wired. All I need was installing bladders, hoses and pump.

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I had to remove my passenger seat for some other work so thought I'd tidy up the lumbar wiring as I fitted it with the seat in the car. As I had the lumbar pump in a bag instead of the nice fitted bracket I ordered one off eBay:

 

Fitted pump:

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This is the new neater type:

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But the pump looks like it;s missing something by the nozzle and the plug is male so won't plug into the loom:

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Are the pumps interchangeable and do I just need to swap the plug? 

 

The newer style is much tidier and fits under the seat much neater so would prefer to use if I can

 

Does anyone know? 

 

 

 

 

 

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Morning kids.

 

I'm getting a  lot of PM's regarding my install guides and that the photobucket pictures won't show due to photobucket's policy.

 

I have moved to a different host but moving all pictures and then hotlinking them will take a lot of time, which I do not have at the moment.

 

In the mean time please download the photobucket fix plugin for Firefox or Chrome

 

Firefox sickbucket fix

 

Chrome sickbucket fix

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Hey Raymondo.  

 

How you dping.    You will be glad to hear there is another nutter in UK who is going to attempt this and retrofitting heated seats.    I got lucky and found a pair of standard seats which the seller said they were but they turned out to be factory fitted heated seats with lumber support.   And the best thing is only coat me £25 for the both.   Down side is they are black and my interior is grey.   So I have to swap the seat covers about.  Started make some progress with making my own wiring loom from the switch centre.  Your photos for the lumber support hosted on photo box no longer available any chance you could share them with me?   For lumber support to work I presume all I need is a positive from fuse 37 to the seat and then earth right?  As the seat I bought already have the lumber support installed less work for me hopefully. :)

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Thanks Raymond.

 

The seats I bought second hand have lumber support also.  Any idea how I get power for thumber support.   My existing wiring loom in the car are basic ones.  So presume I have go get power through to under the seat.

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yes mate.  The seats I bought second hand already has lumber and heated seat element already.    Just messaged you about some issues I am having with heated seats now working.   nothings going right at the moment.  I worked out how to get the power to the lumber to work but I think I might have a doggy air inverter as the pumps is working and I can hear but the bags not getting inflated.   I removed the hose from inverter and checked and I can feel the air is coming through the hose but the inverter letting it straight out rather than diverting it to where I want it to go.  :(

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I am sure they both are connected correctly blue tube to blue and the red to red.   As I said I feel the air coming out of the inverter not going through any of the tubes.  and Also when I deflate nothing happens.  no noise from anything.  where as pressing ether up down or forward I can hear the pump under the seat working.

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5 hours ago, Raymond said:

Are you sure you've not connected the clear air line to either the blue or red.

 

Got no message btw

 

On ‎06‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:11 PM, BarryM said:

I had to remove my passenger seat for some other work so thought I'd tidy up the lumbar wiring as I fitted it with the seat in the car. As I had the lumbar pump in a bag instead of the nice fitted bracket I ordered one off eBay:

 

Fitted pump:

IMG_4125.thumb.JPG.556bb50a7cb7b3aa4ff6c5ded279298f.JPG

 

This is the new neater type:

IMG_4124.thumb.JPG.813e21fc786bab2fe6478a9f968e9216.JPG

 

But the pump looks like it;s missing something by the nozzle and the plug is male so won't plug into the loom:

IMG_4123.thumb.JPG.da1b4bdda16eae36eba1a06324e14f80.JPG

 

Are the pumps interchangeable and do I just need to swap the plug? 

 

The newer style is much tidier and fits under the seat much neater so would prefer to use if I can

 

Does anyone know? 

 

 

 

 

 

      

Don't know.  Mine in a bag under the seat.  Haven't tried removing it.  

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