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Who's V8 has that old knocking sound


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#1 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:16 AM

Hi guys
Just interested in knowing who else has a V8 with that terrible knock tap tap sound in the top of there motor.
I know it is normal and over the weekend I met up with three other drivers of either 535 or 540 E39s with the same sound. One of them was very noisy, so my question is how many of you guys have the sound or have found a way to get rid of it.
My 535i sports 2000 model has had the chain guide and chain replaced 12,000km ago by the previous owner and it's still there. I have read that if you idle rev the car for 3 minutes at 3000rpm it has help to take away the sound.
I would really like to here your stories of experiences with this issue
Cheers
Addam

#2 Scotty540i

Scotty540i
  • LocationHook, Hampshire
  • Occupation:Project Manager
  • Current Car:E46 328Ci

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:24 AM

It only affect's M62TU's, i.e the Vanos V8's.

Mine is silent being an M62B44.
1999 E46 328Ci

#3 dimsum

dimsum
  • LocationLondon/Kent
  • Occupation:Police Officer
  • Current Car:BMW X5 3.0d Sport

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:25 AM

Mine is also non-vanos and is very quiet... Well, from the front of the car anyway.. :cool:
Current - Late 2003 (facelift) BMW E53 X5 3.0d Sport - Sapphire Black

Gone - Written off! Stupid bloody Corsa drivers! - 2006 Chrysler 300C CRD saloon.... Mmmmm diesel...... ;)

Gone - 1998 E39 535iA SE. Super low miler..... Sport steering wheel upgrade for now... ;)


Gone - 1997 E39 540i Auto - Cosmos Black with contrasting tan leather interior- Aka "The Beast"
Black Kidney Grills
Clear side repeaters
Sports front bumper
M5 shocks and springs
Muffler delete - (Rear sIlencers removed)
Sports rear bumper fitted

#4 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:30 AM

Come on guys don't rub it in lol
Mine is really quiet on start up but once it warms up it starts

#5 V8Warrior

V8Warrior
  • LocationYorkshire
  • Occupation:Freight Train Driver enjoying 3200BHP At The Rail
  • Current Car:2001 E39 M5 2000 E39 530d Touring

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:36 AM

Mine has a low vanos rumble once warm - Doesn't bother me, INPA shows that the VANOS is working as it should be and it can only be heard with the bonnet up. Not bad for 143k miles I think?

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#6 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:40 AM

Mine was slot quieter until last week I replaced the oil and it a bit louder now. Mine can be heard with the bonnet closed just slightly

#7 V8Warrior

V8Warrior
  • LocationYorkshire
  • Occupation:Freight Train Driver enjoying 3200BHP At The Rail
  • Current Car:2001 E39 M5 2000 E39 530d Touring

Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:45 AM

What grade of oil did you use?

I did my last change 2000 miles ago and used Halfords own brand (LL98 spec) 5w/40 Fully Synthetic (It's produced by Castrol for Halfords IIRC) :)

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#8 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:05 AM

He used mobil 1 fully synthetic 5w-50 and when i asked why he didnt use 0w40 he said he recommends only 5w50 for queensland climates
He worked for BMW for 14 years and I said okay

#9 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:15 PM

Hey warrior
Did your last oil change quiet down your car and if so what oil did you use prior to the change
Cheers mate

#10 mcenroe

mcenroe
  • LocationEssex
  • Occupation:Plumber
  • Current Car:e39 2000 535i sport e46 330ci

Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:36 PM

Try a different grade of oil..
Or search for tapper noise..

#11 V8Warrior

V8Warrior
  • LocationYorkshire
  • Occupation:Freight Train Driver enjoying 3200BHP At The Rail
  • Current Car:2001 E39 M5 2000 E39 530d Touring

Posted 13 June 2011 - 06:34 PM

It quietened it a bit yeah :)

Last grade of oil was whatever BMW put in previously :)

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#12 jimmy

jimmy
  • LocationTeesside
  • Current Car:E39 Touring 3.0 Heavy Oil

Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:22 PM

Mine had a noticeable heavy rattle on startup for maybe a second (not all the time) and just a slight thud on tickover only heard from the front of the car, I have heard them sounding like a massey and still going strong, I believe someone on here changed there vanos to cure the fault (I think the initial rattle on startup was due to seals losing pressure in the vanos after being sat for a day or 2)

Regards

Jimmy

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E39 530d Sport Touring
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#13 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:46 PM

Hey Guys
I was searching through You Tube and found this, Has anyone tried a Engine Flush


#14 V8Warrior

V8Warrior
  • LocationYorkshire
  • Occupation:Freight Train Driver enjoying 3200BHP At The Rail
  • Current Car:2001 E39 M5 2000 E39 530d Touring

Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:06 AM

The "knock" in the video is going to be noticeably less with new oil than old oil - I'm not sold on engine flush, I would never use it in an engine that's seen a fair few miles as I'd be worried about what it might remove from the oil seals and the like.

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#15 Hasso

Hasso
  • LocationSweden

Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:23 AM

Not mine :) Shell helix ultra LL-01 approved. 200.000 km on the clock runs like a spinning cat

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#16 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 14 June 2011 - 10:07 AM

Hi hasso
Did you flush your motor?

#17 V8Warrior

V8Warrior
  • LocationYorkshire
  • Occupation:Freight Train Driver enjoying 3200BHP At The Rail
  • Current Car:2001 E39 M5 2000 E39 530d Touring

Posted 14 June 2011 - 10:34 AM

Liking that strut brace on the video - Anyone any idea where to get one from (sorry for OT) - Seen plenty of them advertised for the inline 6 engines but not the V8?

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#18 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 14 June 2011 - 10:47 AM

Hasso
Your car and mine are about the same

#19 Hasso

Hasso
  • LocationSweden

Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:09 AM

Hi hasso
Did you flush your motor?



No it have never been flusched.
But I know it could help sometimes againts ticking lifters as i have friends who tried.

Mine oil is clean and looks nearly like new after 10000 km when I change it every 12 mounth.
Some M62TU engines have vanosnoise or knocking noise some dont why nobody seem to have an explanation fore that and its seems normal.

Crew at Scandinaviens largest private owned Websajt fore Bmwcars.
58.000 users, 155 million visits.

New BMW 325Ci -2004 .http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=46544

2013-10-10

New  BMW 318 touring -2002  Japanes red.  2013-03-24

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=46486

 

BMW 540i Touring 6 speed. 2004-10-04

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=40895
http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=40895
Nr 9 of 193 made Facelifte LHD 540 tourings with 6 speed. The First made Antrazite 397 of 5 total. SOLD 2013-10-09 after 9 years ownership. Best car ever !!.
 

 

NEW 2009-09-17 540IAM -2001 sold again. http://www.autopower...016723_s640.jpg
http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=45700
NEW E36 316Gas biogas -1998 2009-10-06  SOLD 2013-06-02
http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=45749

 

BMW 528ia -1996  2000-10-27  Sold 2004-10-04.

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=40865

 

 

 

 


#20 Hasso

Hasso
  • LocationSweden

Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:15 AM

Hasso
Your car and mine are about the same



Both of my 540-01 have a quiet M62TU and my workingfrinds with a 740-98 and a 540/sixspeed touring 01 just like mine but topazblue is also quiet.

Crew at Scandinaviens largest private owned Websajt fore Bmwcars.
58.000 users, 155 million visits.

New BMW 325Ci -2004 .http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=46544

2013-10-10

New  BMW 318 touring -2002  Japanes red.  2013-03-24

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=46486

 

BMW 540i Touring 6 speed. 2004-10-04

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=40895
http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=40895
Nr 9 of 193 made Facelifte LHD 540 tourings with 6 speed. The First made Antrazite 397 of 5 total. SOLD 2013-10-09 after 9 years ownership. Best car ever !!.
 

 

NEW 2009-09-17 540IAM -2001 sold again. http://www.autopower...016723_s640.jpg
http://www.autopower...r.asp?bil=45700
NEW E36 316Gas biogas -1998 2009-10-06  SOLD 2013-06-02
http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=45749

 

BMW 528ia -1996  2000-10-27  Sold 2004-10-04.

http://www.autopower...w.asp?bil=40865

 

 

 

 


#21 Roop27

Roop27
  • LocationWest Somerset
  • Current Car:540iA Sport

Posted 15 June 2011 - 07:06 AM

Just thought I would add the engine in my 2002 540i is very quiet but then it has only done 70k. I had not heard of this issue before.

#22 Golf Pro

Golf Pro
  • LocationGold Coast, Australia
  • Occupation:Golf Pro
  • Current Car:E39 2000 535i Sports/E28 1988 M535i

Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

This is a email I received back from mobil regarding what oil to run in my car



Hello Addam,
Per below our on-line Oil Recommend Tool, Mobil 1 0W-40 is the best choice
for youe car. And when you feel the engine power get less than B4 or find
lube oil consumption coming up, it's the time to use Mobil 1 5W-50 which is
more suitable for vehicles with high milage. Hope this helps.

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I own a BMW e39 535i Sports 2000 Model. I have had my oil changed two times
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Mobil one that meets my cars standard request and both times I have had
Mobil one 5w-50 added to my engine and told it was the right oil. But after
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