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Hi All,

Looking to get back into BWM ownership with a 60/61 plate 530 F11. Are there any reliability issues to worry about. My 05 525 E61 was always needing new parking sensors and the aerial unit in the tailgate failed 3 times due to water ingress. There were also horror stories about blocked DPFs and EGRs although I never suffered that due to doing a lot of motorway miles.

 

Any advice welcome.  Thanks

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Only thing that the F11 suffers from over the other well documented F10 faults* is the rear air springs being susceptible to leaks. The panoramic roofs can have issues, but your other issues will be 

 

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aircon condenser, these leak and have been replaced usually under warranty 

Rust on doors, thread on here somewhere 

yellow grommet source of water leaks, sticky thread at the top of this forum

EGRs, being recalled at present.

 

A 530d will be a good drive. 

 

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3 hours ago, johned said:

Hi All,

Looking to get back into BWM ownership with a 60/61 plate 530 F11. Are there any reliability issues to worry about. My 05 525 E61 was always needing new parking sensors and the aerial unit in the tailgate failed 3 times due to water ingress. There were also horror stories about blocked DPFs and EGRs although I never suffered that due to doing a lot of motorway miles.

 

Any advice welcome.  Thanks

blocked DPF is a rare one on the F11/F10. These cars are constantly regenerating every 500-600 miles. compared to other BMWs like E87 1 series which does it after a few 1000 KM. The EGR thing has now been addressed by the recall, again I have changed my rear air suspension 1 side. Went for an aftermarket one as apparently, they are better than OE version.

My F11 530d is a 2012 and it's really robust, taken it to Europe loads of times and put a roof box on top and gone to Scotland/Ireland. I don't like the Run-flat tyres that's the only other thing that will cost you.

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Having previously owned an E61 with the same M57 engine, I am familiar with the diversity antenna problem, as well as swirl flaps, clogging EGR, cracking stainless exhaust manifold etc. I don't know about the F11, but my F07 has the N57 engine and it is a huge improvement over it's predecessor and doesn't have those problems. Apart from the EGR, as 535i Andrew has mentioned, I haven't found any weaknesses yet. The 8 speed autobox is so much better and I don't think the F series are plagued with iffy electrics in the same way the E series were.

 

If I were looking for a 60/61 plate F11, one thing I would be wary of is whether the front wishbones have been replaced. Mine were shot at 95K miles and I suspect were the reason the guy I bought from was selling the car - BMW would want thousands to do this work, although of course you could get it done cheaper elsewhere.

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21 minutes ago, 535i Andrew said:

 

Nah

 

F11 = N55 Engine.

 

In times of high fuel prices those of us who do high mileage have no choice in going for N55 (porn-star) ,  we have to settle for the N57 (porns-stars sister). Not exactly the same kinda ride, but somewhat similar

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1 hour ago, sams255 said:

 

In times of high fuel prices those of us who do high mileage have no choice in going for N55 (porn-star) ,  we have to settle for the N57 (porns-stars sister). Not exactly the same kinda ride, but somewhat similar

 

B58 all the way :D

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1 hour ago, sams255 said:

 

In times of high fuel prices those of us who do high mileage have no choice in going for N55 (porn-star) ,  we have to settle for the N57 (porns-stars sister). Not exactly the same kinda ride, but somewhat similar

 

I put Vpower in mine last week as it was the same price as ordinary Diesel. If I had used limp wristed unleaded, the price difference would go a reasonable way to offset the, ahem, cough current average of 23.9mpg.

 

1 hour ago, Greenfingers said:

 

....or N47

 

No, no, no and no.:P

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Thanks all, some really useful and reassuring advice there. And the next question......what sort of real world mpg I could I expect from the 530d?????

 

Cheers

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3 hours ago, johned said:

Thanks all, some really useful and reassuring advice there. And the next question......what sort of real world mpg I could I expect from the 530d?????

 

Cheers

 

Over 48000 miles I averaged 38mpg and mine was the first iteration of the N57 (245 Bhp) and this was superseded early 2012 with the 258Bhp version of the N57 that brought with it a reduction in consumption.

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Cheers Matthew. That’s only 12 mpg less than i’m Getting on my ‘2013 2L Mondeo Titanium X. I think with the kit it has the 2L engine struggles to pull it around!!

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On 12/01/2019 at 13:02, Matthew Ashton said:

 

Over 48000 miles I averaged 38mpg and mine was the first iteration of the N57 (245 Bhp) and this was superseded early 2012 with the 258Bhp version of the N57 that brought with it a reduction in consumption.

Me personally i don't bother looking at the average over the entire life. I just look at average per tank. in town im getting in my 530D 550miles for a 70-litre tank. and on the motorway with sensible driving, I'm getting 600-650 miles per tank, 

Sometimes if I wanna drive in sports mode all the time I will get maybe 450 miles per tank. 

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1 hour ago, sams255 said:

Me personally i don't bother looking at the average over the entire life. I just look at average per tank. in town im getting in my 530D 550miles for a 70-litre tank. and on the motorway with sensible driving, I'm getting 600-650 miles per tank, 

Sometimes if I wanna drive in sports mode all the time I will get maybe 450 miles per tank. 

 

As I'm anal like that, the 38mpg is actual average full to full calculated economy and not relying on the car's OBC so is as accurate as you're going to get. I have all individual tank full data too.

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41 minutes ago, Matthew Ashton said:

I have all individual tank full data too.

 

I have all that data too, glad I'm not the only one.  But I have no idea what my average is.  So I don't know why I do it.

 

It must be my automotive OCD!:D

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On 12/01/2019 at 09:47, johned said:

what sort of real world mpg I could I expect from the 530d?????

I used to have quite a heavy right foot and my average over 2 years with the N57 engine was 34.7.

 

When I decided to completely change my style of driving I reset the computer and my final score after a further year was 37.1.

 

I once got over 700 miles from a single tank of diesel, although I managed to drive almost exclusively on clear A roads and motorways to get that and was overtaken by almost every vehicle travelling in the same direction.

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I once gotten 62mpg in the summer on my 530d fuelly says I average of 52 mpg and if I do 70+ and it falls to 48 mpg of course this is a mainly motorway work. This was a F10 i think the f11 may be slightly worse.

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Reliability of mine is good. Replaced both suspension air bags with aftermarket as they started to leak. It’s a 15min job. 

 

Other than that a reverse light bulb and that’s it. 

 

Lovely car. Now has 70k miles. Awaiting BMW writing to me about the EGR. Mines averaging 38.5 and that includes my 10mile daily commute. Mpg is better in the summer too. On a longer journey 43-47+ mpg. All depends on your right foot. 

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F11's should do slightly better on fuel.  Tourers are better in the aero department plus they stick to the same size tyre all around.   The F10's have the wider rears which hurt economy.  Also the rake of the vehicle stays level with the rear air springs which help quite a bit at higher speeds.

 

The best I have from my 535d was low to mid 50's sticking to UK speed limits on the motorway m25/4/6 and back.  

 

Luckily for me, most of my motorway work is in Europe and one of my trips is 1000 miles each way.   I can do and have done this journey in 12 hours with an mpg of 38.     I think this is just amazing and what the 35d motor is all about.   I suspect the 30d unit will be similar.

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