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22 hours ago, oldjohnny said:

The most alarming aspect of all this is probably the demise of those capable of still working on cars from the 70s-80s-90s.

They are rapidly becoming the last of a dying race.  The man in the battered overalls with the oil ring mark on his ear from the piece of tubing used to 'listen' to the engine is no more. The future of old car terminology will also diminish rapidly.

Carb-U -Eaters will become part of slimming world. 

Pressures of any description will be made gender neutral or illegal and treatable by the NHS. 

Any mention of performance will be banned for fear of making anyone feel inadequate.

0-60 will simply indicate how life is flying by these days compared to the laid back times of the Flower People.

0-75 will mean that the men in the van will be coming to collect you shortly for termination as per the new Government policy of compulsory ceasing to be after this age.

 

Protect yourself to some degree by never falling out with your children as they are the ones who will be selecting your nursing home!  

 

  

 I'll never forget watching the guy who used to run the garage I use set up the Weber dual 38 carb on my old Sierra just by listening to the engine. He tweaked it a but, stood back and listened, tweaked it again and then said 'that should be pretty close' before putting the gas analyzer up the exhaust which revealed it was spot on. He also advanced the timing to what seemed like a ridiculous 14 degrees before tdc. When I mentioned 'might it pink a bit?' his reply was 'trust me' with a knowing look on his face. That car must have had another 40 bhp when I left the garage, I couldn't believe it.

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21 hours ago, KingOfTheHill said:

I've always had a bit of a thing for the MK2 Granada, having owned 8 over the years including for a brief period 4 at the same time.

 

Only two left now, neither of which have been on the road for a decade. Just another thing I need to get around to at some point...

 

 

Too Many Granadas.jpg

  

  Never owned one or driven one but I am also a huge fan of the mk2, what model is the pre-facelift saloon above?

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The estate model above is a 1983 2792cc petrol.  Going simply by the wheels it could be the Ghia iX model with the 2.8 litre fuel injected engine.

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1 minute ago, oldjohnny said:

The estate model above is a 1983 2792cc petrol.  Going simply by the wheels it could be the Ghia iX model with the 2.8 litre fuel injected engine.

The Ghia could be specified with alloys which LOOKED like the Ghia X, but the Ghia X wheels were metrics. 

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:45 PM, NWJW said:

  

  Never owned one or driven one but I am also a huge fan of the mk2, what model is the pre-facelift saloon above?

 

 

From front to back:

 

1982 2.8i Ghia X Estate - Auto

1981 2.3 GL Auto (minty fresh with only 48k miles, sold it on eBay)

1983 2.8i Ghia X Saloon - Manual

1984 2.8 Ghia Estate - Auto (rotten as a pear at the end, sold to a banger racer for over £1k)

 

They are metric wheels and tyres on both 2.8i models, but  previous owner had fitted non-sport springs so the estate's ride height is wrong.

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:45 PM, NWJW said:

  

  Never owned one or driven one but I am also a huge fan of the mk2, what model is the pre-facelift saloon above?

 

Boy  oh boy those Granada’s were big cars in their day, with a big road presence too.

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In the late 90s the tv car show host Quentin Wilson, when presenting the best second hand value for money cars on the road summed up the Granada Scorpio estate perfectly as, with the rear seats down,   'Having enough room inside for the Isle Of Man'!!!     He also began listing the extras as standard which was so long they faded his description out and gradually, after a while came back to him still listing.  

Big cars indeed and big value.   As posted earlier I had the pleasure of enjoying four of them over the years.

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23 hours ago, vanhool said:

 

Boy  oh boy those Granada’s were big cars in their day, with a big road presence too.

 

And yet now a Mondeo is bigger.

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'I don't believe it' but tis true.    When first informed of this a while back I accused a good pal of talking S****.  Upon checking he was of course correct but he graciously accepted my apology.  And a pint for good measure!    The Top Gear original three musketeers all agreed that the modern day Mondeo is the best value and quality by far in its class.  Haven't been in one yet but I will agree with them on the grounds that I couldn't afford three pints if i disagreed and was wrong again.

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On 6/25/2018 at 5:30 PM, vanhool said:

 

Boy  oh boy those Granada’s were big cars in their day, with a big road presence too.

 

 I've seen a mk2 estate and an e39 touring parked side by side and the Granada looked bigger.

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2 hours ago, e60neindanke said:

 

And yet now a Mondeo is bigger.

 

 That's 'cause a new Mondeo is f'kin huge!

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1 hour ago, oldjohnny said:

'I don't believe it' but tis true.    When first informed of this a while back I accused a good pal of talking S****.  Upon checking he was of course correct but he graciously accepted my apology.  And a pint for good measure!    The Top Gear original three musketeers all agreed that the modern day Mondeo is the best value and quality by far in its class.  Haven't been in one yet but I will agree with them on the grounds that I couldn't afford three pints if i disagreed and was wrong again.

  

 My boss has a new Mondeo and the general manager at work has a new 4 series, having driven them both back to back I genuinely preferred the Mondeo, it was more refined, had a better ride yet handled as well, was better equipped yet cost considerably less (to be expected I suppose!) the interior quality was easily as good if not marginally better than the 4 series and the engine in the Mondeo seemed to have better mid range punch (both cars are 2.0 TD's). I just found the 4 series a bit 'meh'. If only Ford made the Mondeo with rwd..... :sad:

 

......I'd have probably never bought a BMW. :shock:

 

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Modern cars like the Mondeo are bigger externally, however it's the inside of the Granada where it excels as interior space is huge and airy as it lacks all the airbags, impact zones, door protection bars and collapsible plastics that pack out modern interiors. ;)

 

C.

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They way cars are going in a few years the BMW 1 series will be the same size as todays 7 series..

 

Saw a MK1 Escort the other parked up in Tesco's car park, you could literally open the doors and it would still be inside the bay lines. I feel like I have to fold the mirrors on my 535d to make it fit. :wacko:

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11 hours ago, NWJW said:

  

 My boss has a new Mondeo and the general manager at work has a new 4 series, having driven them both back to back I genuinely preferred the Mondeo, it was more refined, had a better ride yet handled as well, was better equipped yet cost considerably less (to be expected I suppose!) the interior quality was easily as good if not marginally better than the 4 series and the engine in the Mondeo seemed to have better mid range punch (both cars are 2.0 TD's). I just found the 4 series a bit 'meh'. If only Ford made the Mondeo with rwd..... :sad:

 

......I'd have probably never bought a BMW. :shock:

 

 

The differance in build quality between BMW, and bread and butter cars, ie Fords used to be enormous, today this is less so, and has been the case for the past two decades. Ford are now making very driveable cars that can hold their own, even when compared to premium manufacturers.

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Re; the size of modern cars, at a supermarket I noticed a new Mini Cooper Clubman Estate parked beside me.  looking at the height and width I wondered if the original mini saloon model from 1959/60 would have fitted inside it.   At home I looked up the dimensions.  It is approx 57" high (1447.8mm).  My old E60 is 58" (1473mm).

Time to drop the word 'mini' me thinks.

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On 6/27/2018 at 8:34 AM, oldjohnny said:

Re; the size of modern cars, at a supermarket I noticed a new Mini Cooper Clubman Estate parked beside me.  looking at the height and width I wondered if the original mini saloon model from 1959/60 would have fitted inside it.   At home I looked up the dimensions.  It is approx 57" high (1447.8mm).  My old E60 is 58" (1473mm).

Time to drop the word 'mini' me thinks.

 

Similarly, I found myself following an original Mk.1 Fiesta. It was *tiny*.

 

I have the feeling that for some time now, BMW has been relying solely on "it's a BMW" for sales. If you want something overloaded with technology, fine: but the reliability is increasingly poor, we have people here citing the rust issues on the F10s, stories about the N47 diesels abound.... where's my incentive to buy a newer one than my fourteen year old 530i? It goes, stops, steers. The engine is still beautifully smooth as is the auto gearbox and it is rapidly approaching 230,000 miles. It's a proper six-pot under the bonnet.

 

I really want to see the old girl make 300,000 miles and on current thinking, I will be considering retirement by then (I do 25 - 30,000 miles a year) and I will probably retire the E60 too, or keep it as a 'high days and holidays' car.

 

But I can guarantee you that its replacement won't be a BMW. My former next door neighbour said he thought his Mondeo estate was streets ahead of the E91 he had.

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I've owned just two Fords. A 1974 Capri 3 Litre GXL (UYN 595M) and a 1989 XR2, F242 TPL.

 

If only I'd kept the Capri tucked away...

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11 minutes ago, Loadmaster said:

 

 

If only I'd kept the Capri tucked away...

It would be held together by the paint...

:lol: 

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Item number 232822970449 on the bay.  (sorry, don't know how to do the link thingy).

 

1981 2.8i.     Bidding at £13,101.00.    Reserve not met.    Wish i'd kept mine too.  :(

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