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Mr Mash :lol: 

there are 2 550i’s in your list one at 407 and one at 449 bhp why is this? 

I have literally no idea on the F series of cars but a 550i GT has come to our attention, so was just seeing what you would be able to get it to and now I’ve seen there’s 2 types would you be able to clarify? 

Thanks 

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2 hours ago, Saunders76 said:

Hi

I have a 2011 523i, and would be interested in getting a remap. 

 

I enquired with the likes of superchips and somewhere else a year or so ago, superchips didn't do anything, and the other place said they could build a bespoke remap but would need the car all day, but could only offer 30hp increase. 

 

So 60+ hp increase is a big jump for a non turbocharged car... 

Is that definitely right? 

What does it do to the fuel consumption? 

Obviously the 523's were a "detuned" non turbo version for better economy... But 60hp.... 

 

Hello! Send me a PM with your VIN number or a picture of the plate inside the drivers door that has the VIN number and engine code on and I'll 100% confirm for you. But we have had pretty big gains out of these before without an issue! We've actually had up to 272BHP from the N53 engines. The drivers door plate should read N53B30 for your engine code. Fuel consumption doesn't really change a huge amount. It does depend on how far your right foot is buried in the carpet though! There's a huge power reserve in the engine on these. Part of the big increase comes from the throttle not opening to 100%, even with your foot down.

 

1 hour ago, Yokozuna said:

Mr Mash :lol: 

there are 2 550i’s in your list one at 407 and one at 449 bhp why is this? 

I have literally no idea on the F series of cars but a 550i GT has come to our attention, so was just seeing what you would be able to get it to and now I’ve seen there’s 2 types would you be able to clarify? 

Thanks 

 

Yo :lol:

 

There was an update to the engine around 2013. Before the facelift the engine code was N63B44O0 producing 407BHP. After 2013 the engine code changed with the update to N63B44O1 producing 449BHP. PM me the reg if necessary and I'll check for you.

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41 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

No reg available but it’s a 2010 car and it states it’s 407bhp.

thats some jump in power normally you get like 10/15bhp! 

Cheers ears...

 

It would be worth looking for a warranty with it. The early 50i engines aren't known for outstanding reliability. Nothing major that I can think of but they do suffer with oil leaks and running problems sometimes.

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18 hours ago, Yokozuna said:

No reg available but it’s a 2010 car and it states it’s 407bhp.

thats some jump in power normally you get like 10/15bhp! 

Cheers ears...

 

Meant to say last night, there's two turbos nestled away under that engine cover in the middle of the V, so plenty of oomph on tap when you need it!

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15 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

 

Meant to say last night, there's two turbos nestled away under that engine cover in the middle of the V, so plenty of oomph on tap when you need it!

Cheers 

your just a fountain of knowledge :) 

 

what difference is it between the 2 engines to get it the extra 40 bhp?

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1 hour ago, Yokozuna said:

Cheers 

your just a fountain of knowledge :) 

 

what difference is it between the 2 engines to get it the extra 40 bhp?

 

There's quite a few differences between the two engines honestly. Pistons and rods were changed, the cylinder heads were upgraded so Valvetronic could be used on the inlet valves for variable valve timing,  the camshafts were given different profiles, the cooling systems were updated for water and oil and the impellers on the turbos were upgraded and the engine ECU was swapped from Siemens to Bosch. It was quite a big revision engine wise.

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I've also had a few questions regarding the power increase on the 3.0 N53 engines. Well this is a car we mapped with before and after rolling road runs done on the same day at a rolling road close to the customer.  

 

E92 325i N53 3.0 engine with stage 1 tune without a manifold swap. 218BHP standard.  

 

 

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Hi, I am picking up a 530GT on a 12 plate in the morning,,, I will be looking at both engine and gear box maps, can you sort me out with both..

 

Also the car is a M Sport but NO paddles so I will be purchasing a new steering wheel with paddles, I know that will need coding, can you sort me out there as well.

 

The last GT I had I did the same as I prefer to use the sport mode and paddles but that company is down south and I will be moving to Scotland very soon...

 

Regards... 

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On 3/27/2018 at 4:51 PM, GT STEVE said:

Hi, I am picking up a 530GT on a 12 plate in the morning,,, I will be looking at both engine and gear box maps, can you sort me out with both..

 

Also the car is a M Sport but NO paddles so I will be purchasing a new steering wheel with paddles, I know that will need coding, can you sort me out there as well.

 

The last GT I had I did the same as I prefer to use the sport mode and paddles but that company is down south and I will be moving to Scotland very soon...

 

Regards... 

 

Hi there,

 

In regards to your engine remap, that's not an issue to do. The gearbox however we wouldn't be able to. There are no off the shelf or custom remaps available from xHP, nor are there any tools out there that support reading and writing on the 8HP gearbox yet. xHP are working on it though - they do have it in the pipeline. We are looking at offering the Alpina flash in future, but we're not promising that yet. We can however update the software on the gearbox to the latest version available from BMW.

 

Coding the paddles, whilst in theory is simple (even more so than on the E6x cars I've done) I only have very limited experience in retrofit coding on the Fxx chassis cars. I have a local guy that I know that's going to drop his car with me for a few days to learn on, so once that's done I'll be more confident in offering it as a service. As it stands, I wouldn't unless you were local. I wouldn't want something to go wrong and you end up stranded so far away from home if you understand my point of view. 

 

Sorry I can't help you more with that! Your engine remap though? No problem! :lol:

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if you want a map go to Harper and see  ask been there today had a full car update and stage 2 tune and all I can say is wow the cars so fatmst rescalled gauges absoulty like a new car and much faster than most things I have been in 

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Another forum member mapped today! :) 530D 245BHP with stage 1 tune. We had an original file on the database, so there was no need to open the ECU, and the CVN is fixed so even if this car was to visit BMW in the future, they'd have no idea (apart from driving it) that it had been remapped.

 

People seem to like seeing some of the ins and outs of these cars being programmed so here you go - one dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree! To write these cars through the OBD port, we have to stop the dashboard switching off, which involves us being in the car, with the seatbelt on, the headlights on and the hazard warning lights flashing.

 

There's always warning messages flashing across the instrument cluster and idrive screen when writing the map file in. The whole car effectively panics as the file is written as certain modules can't see the engine ECU, so drivetrain, gearbox, fuel pump, DSC faults among others all flash past. As soon as communication is restored when the file has finished writing, the faults all disappear - it happens on every car, not just BMW so if you're ever getting your car mapped somewhere and you happened to be in the car or it's visible don't worry, it's all completely normal :).

 

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Many thanks Mark for the remap above to my car.

 

Definitely feel the difference on the drive home. Thanks for all the care taken and also dropping us off and collection at Cheshire Oaks - made for a nice morning.

 

I can highly recommend a visit to Mark at Harper Autos who clearly knows his stuff when it comes to these cars.

 

Thanks again Andrew.

 

 

 

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On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 12:27 PM, Mashed Potatoes said:

Another forum member mapped today! :) 530D 245BHP with stage 1 tune. We had an original file on the database, so there was no need to open the ECU, and the CVN is fixed so even if this car was to visit BMW in the future, they'd have no idea (apart from driving it) that it had been remapped..

 

 

So I take it then that insurance companies would have no idea also, although personally I'd always declare a re-map regardless.

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I spoke with @paulvectrac over the weekend, who had put his car on the rolling road to see what it produced on the stage 2 map. With a standard intercooler on a stinking hot day,  it knocked out 351BHP and 746Nm! A pretty good increase from the standard 258BHP/560Nm!

 

On 5/28/2018 at 8:41 AM, Tuvoc said:

 

So I take it then that insurance companies would have no idea also, although personally I'd always declare a re-map regardless.

 

In theory yes. We also advise people to declare their remap, the increase in premium is usually negligible and at least then you're fully legit.

 

Edited to add that that's how it currently stands. If BMW wanted to throw out your warranty and look in depth at what other modules recorded (for example higher input torque in the gearbox), then they may well still find it. It also doesn't get round the bum dyno unfortunately! 

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18 hours ago, phaylock said:

What other mods are needed for stage 2? That is very impressive power. 

 

Thank you!

 

Stage 2 requires DPF removal as a minimum - in this instance the customer had smashed it out himself. The car would also benefit from an upgraded intercooler to see the most from the map. My understanding is Paul has something in the pipeline for that.

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On 3/12/2018 at 10:56 AM, Mashed Potatoes said:

Hi guys :)

 

As of today, all of the Fxx series cars can be tuned through the diagnostic port! This now covers diesel and petrol, and includes the twin ECU models (M5 for example). This means our price for both have come down massively subject to original files being available on our database. Prices and power increases for stage 1 tuning are below. We can also offer stage 2 and 3 tuning with the associated modifications. Prices are on request for stage 2 and 3 due to the sheer quantity of parts that vary between models. We can also offer additional options such as crackle on the over-run, launch control (on supported models) and hard cut limiter on diesels. These are charged as individual options - should you require an option on your quote, just let me know.

 

The OBD writing on these is subject to an original file being available on our database. If no file is available, we can still work on your car, but in some instances the ECU will have to be removed and a hole may have to be drilled for access inside the casing. We use a specialist drilling jig for this, so your ECU is in safe hands. However the price will change with this. ECUs that require drilling cost £372 inc. VAT (excluding the twin ECU models such as M5/M6) due to the much greater risk involved with working on them. We will always give you the option of backing out at this point before we begin drilling the ECU. Unfortunately there is no way of telling if there's a standard file available until we plug the car in. 

 

Our tuning software is also invisible to a BMW dealer. The car will pass the CVN check, and the flash counter will not increase. I must reiterate here that the software is invisible. If we have had to drill the access hole in your ECU(s) there is a chance that a dealer will remove the ECU to inspect it if they suspect the vehicle has been tuned. Whilst we can and do insert a blanking plug into the hole, it is still obvious the ECU has been drilled. This will void your warranty. If your car can be programmed through the diagnostic port, there is nothing to worry about.

 

Performance dial scales are adjusted free of charge to reflect your increase in power.

 

Feel free to ask all of your questions in this thread. The prices below include the forum discount for stage 1 tuning. RRP without the discount for this forum is also included.

 

If your file is not on the original file database (as I said previously there is no way of checking if your software version is available for OBD write without having the car here) the prices have been added in below.

 

Petrols

 

 

BMW 520i 184BHP/270Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 260BHP/420Nm. 41% BHP and 56% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 523i 204BHP/270Nm - N53 engine - Stage 1 tuning @ 265BHP/315Nm. 30% BHP and 17% torque increase. 

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing.

 

BMW 525i 218BHP/270Nm - N53 engine - Stage 1 tuning @ 265BHP/315Nm. 22% BHP and 17% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing.

 

BMW 528i 245BHP/350Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 280BHP/430Nm. 14% BHP and 23% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 530i 272BHP/320Nm - N53 engine - Stage 1 tuning @ 290BHP/340Nm. 7% BHP and 6% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing.

 

BMW 535i 306BHP/400Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 370BHP/550Nm. 21% BHP and 38% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. Please allow plenty of time should this ECU need to be worked on on the bench. The inlet manifold must be removed.

 

BMW 550i 407BHP/600Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 470BHP/700Nm. 15% BHP and 17% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. Water cooled single ECU.

 

BMW 550i 449BHP/650Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 540BHP/780Nm. 20% BHP and 20% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. £600 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. Water cooled master and slave twin ECU setup. Both ECUs require removing and drilling. 

 

BMW M5 (including Competition 575BHP and 30 Jahre Edition 600BHP models) 560BHP/680Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 680BHP/850Nm. 21% BHP and 25% torque increase.

£330 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £396 inc. VAT for OBD write. £600 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing. Water cooled master and slave twin ECU setup. Both ECUs require removing and drilling.

 

 

Diesels 

 

 

BMW 518D 136BHP/360Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 62% BHP and 22% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 518D 143BHP/360Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 54% BHP and 22% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 518D 150BHP/360Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 47% BHP and 22% toruqe increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 520D 163BHP/380Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 35% BHP and 16% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 520D 184BHP/380Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 20% BHP and 16% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 520D 190BHP/400Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 16% BHP and 10% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 520D 200BHP/420Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 10% BHP and 5% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 525D 204BHP/450Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 300BHP/620Nm.  47% BHP and 36% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C09 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 525D 218BHP/450Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 270BHP/500Nm. 24% BHP and 11% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 530D 245BHP/540Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 300BHP/620Nm. 22% BHP and 15% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. 

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C09 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 530D 258BHP/560Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 310BHP/650Nm. 20% BHP and 16% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write. 

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C56 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 535D 306BHP/600Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 350BHP/700Nm. 15% BHP and 17% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

BMW 535D 313BHP/630Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 380BHP/730Nm. 21% BHP and 16% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 CP45 ECU. An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

 

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Silly question time coming up.....

I have a 2014 520D (184bhp) N47T engine 37K miles.

As I'm in Hampshire, Chester is a bit far to go, but i notice you say it can be sent through the mail!

Does that apply to the OBD port upgrade, and if so how does that work?

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25 minutes ago, Atlastabeema said:

Silly question time coming up.....

I have a 2014 520D (184bhp) N47T engine 37K miles.

As I'm in Hampshire, Chester is a bit far to go, but i notice you say it can be sent through the mail!

Does that apply to the OBD port upgrade, and if so how does that work?

 

Hello! That wouldn't apply to the OBD port remap, we would need the car here for that. We would need you to post the ECU and we would open it up and work directly on the board so unfortunately the higher rates would apply. We would need you to clarify which ECU you have though. This is easy enough to do, remove the T25 torx screws (from memory) on the ECU box lid (behind the drivers side headlight) and tell me how many plugs you can see on the ECU. If it's the 5 plug ECU we would not work on this by post. We always reconnect the ECU to the car after drilling the access hole to make sure we haven't caused any damage by drilling the hole, and we'd obviously not be able to check that if you were posting the ECU. If you see 2 large plugs, then the ECU opens normally and we will be able to work with this by post. Unfortunately we won't do it with the drill ECUs, whilst we've never had one break, we just wouldn't take the risk without having the car to test on after drilling.

 

The ECU will look like this this if it's a 2 plug ECU (c50):

 

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Or this for the 5 plug (c41):

 

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Feel free to send me a picture to clarify should you need to.

 

The only other caveat with posting the ECU is the car must remain unlocked whilst the ECU is out. This will prevent any issues arising with the immobilizer going out of sync when the car is locked and unlocked without the engine ECU in.

 

We generally work on posted ECUs the same day they arrive. We will then seal them up and send them back to you with a tracking code, or we can also get a quote for a same day courier but that might be very expensive if you're in Southampton. For the C50 ECU that doesn't require drilling, it would be £312 inc. VAT. I would waive the postage charge for a forum member.  The ECUs are sent back out in an anti-static bag in one of our own boxes packed appropriately. 

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Hi Mashed, in your list above there is this engine:

 

BMW 520D 200BHP/420Nm - Stage 1 tuning @ 220BHP/440Nm. 10% BHP and 5% torque increase.

£228 inc. VAT to BMW5. RRP £276 inc. VAT for OBD write.

£312 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C50 ECU.

£372 inc. VAT for bench reading and writing on EDC17 C41 ECU (5 plug). An access hole will be drilled in the casing on this ECU.

 

I thought the highest BHP on the B47 was currently 190bhp, so, what is this engine please? Thanks...........

 

 

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