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Had Jap Import after Jap Import before I got into BMWs. Never had issues with higher insurance.

 

However, I did stick with specialist insurers like Chris Knott, Sky, AF, A-Plan etc...

 

I'd do the research first into the cars. I'd also say that some of the prices are OTT, but cash is king etc ;)

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I'm sure the prices are negotiable. Good 540i V8s are rare so perhaps with some negotiation those prices could be reasonably realistic, e.g. the 540i with 34k miles for £11,995. If you got if for £10k say then certainly some people would pay that happily.

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11 hours ago, Loadmaster said:

Does NZ get a fair few used imports from the UK then Allan? What's popular?

 

We used to import more used cars from Japan, than new cars. Not sure if it's still true.

 

Our E39 came from Singapore, and our 2 VWs are NZ new. We have owned far more imports than cars sold here new.

 

EVERYTHING is imported, but all the common stuff comes in larger quantities, and quite a number of japan-only models come in too.

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No salt on the roads in Singapore that is for sure !

 

Mind you my uncle had a Volvo from Singapore, and had no end of issues with it. The extreme heat had apparently melted some of the wiring enough to give him no end of electrical problems.

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On BMW vin decoder, it has option S823A, hot climate version  which I believe is the radiator is bigger as when I checked mine on real OEM it came out as weighing more, hence I assume it must have a larger capacity.

The final drive is charged from the standard 2.80 to 3.15,  option S204 which increases the acceleration capabilities with downside of increased rpm when cruising.

With regard to Dennis's comments on increased insurance costs, mine only costs me about 10% extra on my annual premium.

It was originally EUR specified & I have spent a few quid converting all the Japanese specific bits back to UK spec, all I have left is the stupid stickers.

As stated above, would I buy another, definitely, especially when I paid a fraction of the ones advertised at GM's.

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Hi there

            I bought my E39 Touring in February 2017 as a Japanese Import.

It was  a2003 model and It came with a ridiculously low mileage of 50k and of course a full main dealer service history.

  When i took delivery of it I have to say it looked and felt, in every regard, like a brand new vehicle, it was truly immaculate with not a scratch, pimple, dent, swirl or blemish.

 

Of course I paid over the odds for it compared to a UK sourced one but as it was my intention to own and run it for the long term and because after years of pissing

good money after bad on brand new cars and promising myself I would never do it again, I felt comfortable paying Nine grand for it.

 

The car was fully factory optioned as Japanese rarely buy base models in this class of vehicle.

 

The dealerships converted the stereo/satnav to an Xtrons unit making it uk compatible but suggested leaving the speedo in Km/ph leaving the mileage untampered as

they felt this would compromise the value of the car, it doesn't bother me to be honest, I have left it as it is.

 

I have since racked up another ten thousand trouble free miles in it doing a number of jobs to it based on 'preventative' maintainence because its almost fifteen years old and I intend to drive this one until they prise the M-Sport steering wheel out of my cold dead hands.

 

To that end I had all the wheel bearings replaced, a new valve cover, power steering pipework, radiator, water pump ( I had one of those Stewart EMP Waterpump jobbies put in) viscous cooling fan and thermostat and all cooling system pipework replaced as well as a full service.

Last job was fitting a set of Uniroyal RS3 tyres to replace the noisy Federal tyres it came with.

oh yes, I had the gearbox oil changed too. 

 

If your in it for long term ownership I recommend it, you will probably pay a bit more but it will be worth every penny.

Good Luck.

 

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12 hours ago, Marc_C said:

Hi there

            I bought my E39 Touring in February 2017 as a Japanese Import.

It was  a2003 model and It came with a ridiculously low mileage of 50k and of course a full main dealer service history.

  When i took delivery of it I have to say it looked and felt, in every regard, like a brand new vehicle, it was truly immaculate with not a scratch, pimple, dent, swirl or blemish.

 

Of course I paid over the odds for it compared to a UK sourced one but as it was my intention to own and run it for the long term and because after years of pissing

good money after bad on brand new cars and promising myself I would never do it again, I felt comfortable paying Nine grand for it.

 

The car was fully factory optioned as Japanese rarely buy base models in this class of vehicle.

 

The dealerships converted the stereo/satnav to an Xtrons unit making it uk compatible but suggested leaving the speedo in Km/ph leaving the mileage untampered as

they felt this would compromise the value of the car, it doesn't bother me to be honest, I have left it as it is.

 

I have since racked up another ten thousand trouble free miles in it doing a number of jobs to it based on 'preventative' maintainence because its almost fifteen years old and I intend to drive this one until they prise the M-Sport steering wheel out of my cold dead hands.

 

To that end I had all the wheel bearings replaced, a new valve cover, power steering pipework, radiator, water pump ( I had one of those Stewart EMP Waterpump jobbies put in) viscous cooling fan and thermostat and all cooling system pipework replaced as well as a full service.

Last job was fitting a set of Uniroyal RS3 tyres to replace the noisy Federal tyres it came with.

oh yes, I had the gearbox oil changed too. 

 

If your in it for long term ownership I recommend it, you will probably pay a bit more but it will be worth every penny.

Good Luck.

 

Completely agree with your thought process there.

 

Did you buy yours from a specialist dealer?

 

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15 hours ago, Loadmaster said:

Completely agree with your thought process there.

 

Did you buy yours from a specialist dealer?

 

Hi

     yes, i did, a place called Seymour Pope,  they seem to specialise in exotic, esoteric and unusual metal from Japan and other places.

They source the cars themselves and ship them over at their own cost, they also covered the cost of all the necessary paperwork to get

the car UK registered, MOT'd and the new number  issued from DVLC as well as the Stereo/SatNav conversion, they also gave the car a six month

parts and labour warranty too.

 

  Ironically the car I originally wanted from them was also a Japanese Import, a 525 E34 Touring in full Racing Dynamics trim which was absolutely gorgeous fully optioned in Black with a black leather interior and a double sunroof, that was up for 7K if my memory serves. 

 

Anyway, that one didn't hang around. So after that I kept my eye on their website and when this one came up I put a holding deposit on it without viewing which they assured me was 

refundable if I changed my mind, of course, after taking one look at it I bought it on the spot.

 

Good luck if you decide to go ahead, you wont regret it.

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7 hours ago, Marc_C said:

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     yes, i did, a place called Seymour Pope,  they seem to specialise in exotic, esoteric and unusual metal from Japan and other places.

They source the cars themselves and ship them over at their own cost, they also covered the cost of all the necessary paperwork to get

the car UK registered, MOT'd and the new number  issued from DVLC as well as the Stereo/SatNav conversion, they also gave the car a six month

parts and labour warranty too.

 

  Ironically the car I originally wanted from them was also a Japanese Import, a 525 E34 Touring in full Racing Dynamics trim which was absolutely gorgeous fully optioned in Black with a black leather interior and a double sunroof, that was up for 7K if my memory serves. 

 

Anyway, that one didn't hang around. So after that I kept my eye on their website and when this one came up I put a holding deposit on it without viewing which they assured me was 

refundable if I changed my mind, of course, after taking one look at it I bought it on the spot.

 

Good luck if you decide to go ahead, you wont regret it.

 

There's a terrible religious joke in there somewhere :roll::lol: 

 

I'll get me coat...

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On ‎29‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 9:20 PM, Marc_C said:

To that end I had all the wheel bearings replaced, a new valve cover, power steering pipework, radiator, water pump ( I had one of those Stewart EMP Waterpump jobbies put in) viscous cooling fan and thermostat and all cooling system pipework replaced as well as a full service.

 

 

How did you get on with parts ? Were the part numbers all the same as a UK car ?

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1 hour ago, Tuvoc said:

 

How did you get on with parts ? Were the part numbers all the same as a UK car ?

 

 

if its the same part it'll be the same part number, where it was registered or built for makes no odds to the part number allocated to a part, specification of cooling systems and final drives is a different thing though as mentioned in a few posts already.

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Well that is what I meant - same parts or not. I guess the BMW dealers are able to look up the car and find the right part and part number, and we have RealOEM of course.

 

For arguments sake, let's say it had a different radiator to a UK spec car. What do you do ? Would BMW UK import the part specially for you ? And I guess in that scenario there is unlikely to be an OEM equivalent available through the likes of Eurocarparts etc. ?

 

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On 30/12/2017 at 4:09 AM, timbolina said:

On BMW vin decoder, it has option S823A, hot climate version  which I believe is the radiator is bigger as when I checked mine on real OEM it came out as weighing more, hence I assume it must have a larger capacity.

The final drive is charged from the standard 2.80 to 3.15,  option S204 which increases the acceleration capabilities with downside of increased rpm when cruising.

With regard to Dennis's comments on increased insurance costs, mine only costs me about 10% extra on my annual premium.

It was originally EUR specified & I have spent a few quid converting all the Japanese specific bits back to UK spec, all I have left is the stupid stickers.

As stated above, would I buy another, definitely, especially when I paid a fraction of the ones advertised at GM's.

The reason they changed the final drive/diff is that their BMWs are electronically limited (ECU) to 210kmh (130mph) so they would not need the extra ratios as in a 155mph limit UK car. Better make use of the gearing ratios for a better acceleration.

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That said, japanese Alpinas doesnt have the electronic limiter, so they goes all the way.

 

Just got this B10 V8S 'halfcut' from Japan to transplant into my car. 284kmh (176mph) top speed. Will be starting the swap in a couple of weeks maybe.

 

I'm in Malaysia by the way.

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On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 1:18 AM, Marc_C said:

Hi

     yes, i did, a place called Seymour Pope,  they seem to specialise in exotic, esoteric and unusual metal from Japan and other places.

Yes, Seymour's site is one I've been following, along with GSM.

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I have not had any problems sourcing parts for my import, almost everything is the same as UK spec.

The radiator was replaced by a main dealer in 2008 with the original hot climate version, but looking on real OEM, All the mountings, cowls & hoses appear to be the same, so if I was to replace it again I would investigate the possibility of using an aftermarket unit. I had forgotten about the speed limiter, easily removed by any reasonable competent re mapper if you need to go faster than 130mph. The ECU in mine is the same as UK cars.

I've also got a coin holder in the drivers door card, absolutely useless in the UK as yen coins are a completely different size to pounds.

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On 12/31/2017 at 3:17 PM, Tuvoc said:

 

How did you get on with parts ? Were the part numbers all the same as a UK car ?

 

 

Yes, they were.

The paperwork that came with the car included its build sheet, the fitted options as specified by the customer and shipping papers from Hamburg to Kawasaki.

Those were the only documents in German everything else is in Japanese including the service book,.

 

The car is described in the shipping doc as 'Euro Spec'

 

When I replaced all those parts I simply but my car's model year and type into the search field on Ebay and bought what I needed, everything fitted right out of the box.

 

The biggest issue, if you could call it that, is when you start the car a woman's voice in Japanese instructs me to "fasten my seat belt and to make sure all my doors are closed

before driving away" at least thats what the dealer told me she is saying, she could be quoting the address of a Tokyo blowjob bar for all I know.

 

I have been listening to it for almost a year now and its starting to get a bit annoying so Its slowly moving up the To-Do list on the car.

 

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13 hours ago, john_ate said:

That said, japanese Alpinas doesnt have the electronic limiter, so they goes all the way.

 

Just got this B10 V8S 'halfcut' from Japan to transplant into my car. 284kmh (176mph) top speed. Will be starting the swap in a couple of weeks maybe.

 

I'm in Malaysia by the way.

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UK Alpinas do not have limiters either.

 

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On 25/12/2017 at 9:02 AM, Loadmaster said:

You think so? As long as they are UK legal, RHD etc why would a mint one of these be worth any less that a UK model?

 

Interested in you thought process there.

Very simple. Different spec, Generally no S/H, 

More expensive to buy initially due to low (unverified) mileage and less rust. 

 

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1 hour ago, Mazi said:

UK Alpinas do not have limiters either.

 

I think Alpina never limits their cars anywhere. Just stating in the Japanese scene.

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7 hours ago, Mazi said:

Very simple. Different spec, Generally no S/H, 

More expensive to buy initially due to low (unverified) mileage and less rust. 

 

Service history may be an issue from what I've seen with my very (limited) research. Generally a 'print out', but this was stated by one UK dealer. Not questioned any others on this subject (e.g. Seymour's) yet.

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I've worked for a company that does Japanese imports (or at least has in the past) and yes service history is an issue. I bought an RX7 from a trader in Japan and it arrived with no history at all. It also arrived with no compression on the rear rotor but that's another story :rolleyes:

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All in favour of Jap imports if you know what your doing.

Bought my 2001 E39 530i in 2006 direct from Jap auction with 26,000km on the clock. Landed cost in New Zealand was way less than I would have had to pay a dealer for lower spec equivalent. Still got it in 2018 and its still a joy to drive. Jap imports are high spec, 12 speakers and 10 airbags and all leather inside. Mileage now up to 77Km but plant your foot and it feels great. Only regret is that I've still got a brand new 17 year old wheel and tyre in the boot that's never been on the road 

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