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E39 525 M Sport - Was There Such a Thing?

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I was always led to believe (somehow!) that there was no such thing as a factory built E39 525 M Sport, but here's a rather nice looking one for sale at Old Colonel.

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e39-5-series-96-04/stunning-e39-525-m-sport--only-88-000--full-history--years-mot/7781641

 

18 inch paras as well - never seen them on any E39 'factory spec' other than the 530. Unfortunately the plate is covered so I can't do an on line MOT history check to see what the DVLA officially describe it as.

 

Either way, I think it's stunning and am mildly tempted.  

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Nice. But don't you hate the extended service intervals on modern cars. That one went 26k miles between services at one point, from 41k to 67k miles. Hate to think what condition the oil was in at that point.

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Lovely car and looks to be in superb condition

 

But another daft price IMO - c£3k yes, not nearly £6k! :roll: 

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7 hours ago, Loadmaster said:

I was always led to believe (somehow!) that there was no such thing as a factory built E39 525 M Sport, but here's a rather nice looking one for sale at Old Colonel.

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e39-5-series-96-04/stunning-e39-525-m-sport--only-88-000--full-history--years-mot/7781641

 

18 inch paras as well - never seen them on any E39 'factory spec' other than the 530. Unfortunately the plate is covered so I can't do an on line MOT history check to see what the DVLA officially describe it as.

 

Either way, I think it's stunning and am mildly tempted.  

 

He purchases most of his BMW stock from his local dealer ....Which at one time also did an inspection of said BMW. ( it's now done by A1 BMW Services)

 He also replaces worn interior trim to add that new car feel etc He is very good at making his motors sell ...

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On 29/09/2017 at 1:51 PM, d_a_n1979 said:

Lovely car and looks to be in superb condition

 

But another daft price IMO - c£3k yes, not nearly £6k! :roll: 

I know, that's the problem.

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On 29/09/2017 at 0:56 PM, Tuvoc said:

Nice. But don't you hate the extended service intervals on modern cars. That one went 26k miles between services at one point, from 41k to 67k miles. Hate to think what condition the oil was in at that point.

Yep, loads of miles between oil changes. 

 

I don't do the mileage, 4k a year maximum, but I still change the oil no more than 12 months apart.

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1 hour ago, Loadmaster said:

Yep, loads of miles between oil changes. 

 

I don't do the mileage, 4k a year maximum, but I still change the oil no more than 12 months apart.

 

I do similar miles and for the price you can get TripleQX oil and a Mann filter from ECP, I do it twice a year for peace of mind! 

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Im on my second 525 sport touring. I paid a lot lot less for mine with 75k miles 3 owners and bmw and specialist history and decent dunlops

 

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2 hours ago, ColinE39 said:

There are no M Sport E39's.

This is what I was thinking. I just wonder why such a well known used BMW independent dealer, who you would assume is knowledgeable of model designations, advertises it in this way.

 

Still a stonking looking car though. 

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Just wondering after several years on the Brit BMW forums that you lift your hairs when somebody mentions E39 and M-sport. I assume BMW UK named the sport version as Sport, but the official German nomenclature is M-sport or M-tech. Even here in Finland the sport versions are M-sport. I would understand if there were separate sport and M-sport versions but this niggling about M-sport sounds ridicilous.

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Hi,

 

In the 'UK', there are no UK specification E39's BMW UK designated as ' M Sport'.  In other markets and territories around the world, there are E39's officially called ' M Sport'. The 2003 model year only E39 540i M Sport is much sought after for instance. 

 

I'd also point out that E39's in the UK could be 'optioned' with style 37's so would be 'factory' spec when delivered.

 

Clavurion - A lot of Brit BMW owners are 'all about OEM only' and 'Factory spec' etc. Anything deviating from that means those owners get all bent out of shape and begin to make fun of/deride/nastily put down cars/owners who don't fit with that. Over the last 27 years, I've very often had such owners say that to me and about my various BMW's which I always modify. I've always just laughed it off and moved on! 

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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It's easy to see the confusion though isn't it ? The log book says it's a sport yet it's adorned with various M badges in and out :rolleyes:

Most uninitiated people say to me "Oh ! You have a M Sport 5 series"  so I just leave them to believe that B)

Its not like I'm claiming it to be an M5 (although I do have the mirrors  ;) )

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11 hours ago, Clavurion said:

 

And the difference between 540i Sport and M-sport is?

 

For the US market, all throughout the E39 production cycle, a significant proportion of them were 540i's. I'm not 100% sure on the marketing aspects, but I think they did 'packages' to the base models and one of those was the 'Sport' package. There was some mix and matching available too, so there'll be sport seats cars with the heated steering wheel from the 'cold weather package' etc. In 2003, a run out 540i M Sport model was listed and had lots of the options included - here's a C&P from one of the US forums ;

 

When you say out there, what do you mean? Yes, they're out there, and yes, I have one! :D


Yes, m-sport package including m-bumpers and m5 parallels. Only year they did that for the e39 I believe. I think it came out when they released the 330i ZHP... which is the same idea but with the 3.

M Parallels, yes. M5 parallels, no. The '03 540i M-Sport came with the Style 37s: 

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and the M5 came with Style 65s: 

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Other items for the '03 M-Sport (as others have mentioned):

• New, more extensive Sport Package. Features with an asterisk (*) are new for ’03:
• M sport suspension II*
• 18-in. M Parallel Spoke wheels (design #37M) in differentiated front/rear sizes with 235/40 front / 265/35 rear performance tires* (formerly 17-in. equipment)
• M aerodynamic body components (front and rear bumper/spoiler ensembles)*
• Black body-side moldings
• High-gloss Shadowline body trim
• Limited exterior color choice*
• Visible exhaust outlet*
• M sport steering wheel
• Titanium-finish rings around instruments* (my car doesn't have this)
• Anthracite-color headliner*
• Sport seats
• M footrest for driver’s left foot*

The Fast Facts CD doesn't mention the ///M door sills, but the '03 M-Sports definitely do have them as well.


The numbers for 2003 540's are pretty low. According to BMW, only 3,639 2003 540's were produced. Taking a look at autotrader and bmwcpo for sale listings, it appears only around 10% of 2003 540i's were 6-speeds. So we're only looking at about 364 cars produced. 

I think that makes this car rarer than a Ferrari :D.
That is definitely a small number of total vehicles in circulation, and should make the '03 540i/6 M-Sport a very collectible/desirable vehicle IMO. I know when I found a well-maintained low-mile specimen, I quickly traded my previous E39 for the '03 M-Sport! I still believe it to be the pinnacle of the E39 evolution, if only a bit short of the venerable M5.

 

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I think Japan had something similar to this as well, but not entirely sure. In Australia I think there were zero manual 540i's as well. In the UK we had those two run out models, the Champagne editions 1&2 and the Aegean one. Would have been nice if the M5 had a run out model/variant too!

 

Cheers, Dennis!

 

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On 1/10/2017 at 0:23 PM, Clavurion said:

Just wondering after several years on the Brit BMW forums that you lift your hairs when somebody mentions E39 and M-sport. I assume BMW UK named the sport version as Sport, but the official German nomenclature is M-sport or M-tech. Even here in Finland the sport versions are M-sport. I would understand if there were separate sport and M-sport versions but this niggling about M-sport sounds ridicilous.

 

Doesn't matter how many times you say it though :wink:

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It's been sold, therefore my temptation has been suppressed... :unsure:

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