markprior

will E60 wheels fit on my F10

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I have an issue at around 60-80mph with vibration

 

had wheels balanced etc... and still the same, i wanted to try a friends e60 wheels on my f10 to try and narrow down which of my tires (im hoping its this) is now a square.

 

both have 19" wheels

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E60 wheels and tyres have a different rolling radii than F10 tyres.  I was wanting to use my dads F10 winters as a temp measure on my E60 but the tyre size is bigger on F10 for the same dia of rim..

 

Use this link

 

http://www.willtheyfit.com/

 

after clicking here to get the offsets of the rims you are planning on using.

 

http://www.bmwstylewheels.com/5

 

 

The offset is less on an E60 rim than an F10, so and F10 wheel sits closer to the suspension components.

 

E60 8*18" wheel has ET of 20mm with a tyre of 245/40/18 Style 124

F10 8*18" wheel has ET of 30mm with a tyre of 245/45/18 Style 237

 

Hub spigot wise, I think is the same but the F10 uses bigger wheel bolts 14mm dia where as the E60 uses 12mm wheel bolts. Hence the much higher torque on an F10 wheel bolt.  Still a 17mm socket size though.

Edited by 535i Andrew

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Nope they will stick out beyond the arches and nasty things will happen especially when steering

I mistakenly bought some lovely ex E60 wheels with winter tyres before realising they would not fit! and sold them on here soon after.

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35 minutes ago, Alexak said:

Nope they will stick out beyond the arches and nasty things will happen especially when steering

 

You are right.  Offset is the distance from the hub face of the rim to the centre line of the rim.  So a bigger offset sticks out further.

 

But why then does willtheyfit.com say otherwise?

 

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=40&diameter=18&wheelwidth=8&offset=20&width2=245&aspect2=45&wheel_size=18&wheel_width=8&offset2=30

 

I is confuzzeled 

 

 

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1 hour ago, markprior said:

hmm could i get away with just the rears?, its litterally to run up motorway and back to see if vibration goes

 

In my view it is not worth the risk, you only need one minor issue and it goes wrong and you are left with the wrong wheels on a car and BMW refusing to do anything under warranty as you put the wrong wheels on the car. also if something significant happened and other parties got caught up in it, you are likely to be seen a liable.

 

You mention you had the wheels balanced, but have you had the tracking looked at? There are plenty of threads on here with users facing similar problems and had to have multiple visits to specialists and BMW dealers before the balancing and tracking was done correctly. Vibrations with new tyres

In your position I would investigate the balancing and tracking further and also check all the suspension components before strapping the wrong wheels that don't actually fit.... However, I am guilty of being rather risk averse when it comes to these sorts of things.

 

RC 

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ok so..... 

 

they did indeed fit on the back (530d SE) and it also did indeed solve my shake.  just ordered 2 new rears :)

Edited by markprior

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Here are the ET20 offset E60 winter wheels I bought from Ebay on the back of my car to check fitment

I decided they could have touched the inner arch on full suspension compression and the front stuck out even more

They also required a spigot adaptor as well because the centre hole was a mm or so larger iirc.

 

I sold them on in the classified section here and bought some new 17" ones from Mr Winter wheels instead

 

 

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Original thread here minus the pictures courtesy of those pillocks at Photobucket

 

 

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7 hours ago, Alexak said:

 

They also required a spigot adaptor as well because the centre hole was a mm or so larger iirc.

 

Thats interesting. Did the wheel move slightly on the hub?

 

Is there an adapter out there on the market for that?

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The ones I bought were not OEM and they came with little plastic rings that took up the slack.

So even though the tapered bolts probably centre the wheel just fine it is never a good idea not to use an adaptor when required because if the bolts were to come loose the wheel would quickly go off centre and the vibration (before it fell off) would not be nice.

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On 9/13/2017 at 1:41 PM, 535i Andrew said:

 

You are right.  Offset is the distance from the hub face of the rim to the centre line of the rim.  So a bigger offset sticks out further.

 

But why then does willtheyfit.com say otherwise?

 

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=245&aspect=40&diameter=18&wheelwidth=8&offset=20&width2=245&aspect2=45&wheel_size=18&wheel_width=8&offset2=30

 

I is confuzzeled 

 

 

 

I always thought the bigger the ET the closer they are to the hub

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1 hour ago, Piper said:

 

I always thought the bigger the ET the closer they are to the hub

 

The bigger the ET the closer they are to the inside of the car.

 

Offset is measured from the hub/wheel mating face to the centre of the wheel.

 

A wheel with 0mm offset means the centre of the wheel is directly above the hub mating face. This means the wheel sticks out towards (measured from the hub mating face) the outside of the car by a distance of 4" if using an 8" rim.

 

A wheel with a positive offset of 25mm or 1" means the centre of the wheel is now 1" inwards of the hub mating face. This means the wheel is recessed inwards towards the centre of the car and it now only sticks out towards (measured from the hub mating face) the outside of the car by a distance of 3" if using an 8" rim.

 

Have a play on willtheyfit.com using the same size of rim and tyre and change the offset and you will see how it changes.

 

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=240&aspect=40&diameter=19&wheelwidth=8&offset=0&width2=240&aspect2=40&wheel_size=19&wheel_width=8&offset2=25

 

See this too.

 

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/wheels/wl200.htm

 

So an E60 wheel with a smaller offset will stick out further towards the outside of the car than an F10 with a higher offset. It will clear suspension components more but the outer face of the tyre may run on the inside of the outer wing.

 

I was confused in an earlier post, the one you quoted, apologies for wrong info.

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26 minutes ago, Piper said:

 

Didn't I just say that lol

 

You said hub, I said car ;) 

 

I had got confused so spent some time reading up on it, beats cleaning the bathroom on a Saturday morning. Ain't my life rock and roll! :D

 

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