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Post Brexit Result

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I'd say lets have Indyref2 ASAP and put it to bed for good. The SNP's economic argument is dead in the water and a good proportion of there faithful don't want to be in the EU anyway. They need to get on with running the country. 

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Unfortunately the groundswell amongst the great unknowing is such that Indyref2 (now being referred to as Scoxit) would probably result in the SNP actually getting their way, and even if they didn't  this time round the present stance seems to be they will keep going until they do get the desired result.

 

As a friend of mine described it, the SNP is like the whiney, annoying kid in the supermarket who throws itself on the floor and screams until it gets what it wants :lol:

 

Scotland's balance of payments under the present administration means we are technically broke without support from the rest of the UK, but the Independence brigade don't want to believe it!

http://stv.tv/news/politics/1364990-scotland-s-economy-continues-to-run-a-15bn-deficit/

 

 

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We are of course in the 'holding phase' post result but pre-fullBrexit of course but markets and other economic indicators have sort of rebounded.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/08/19/what-brexit-apocalypse-no-sign-of-economic-woe-after-the-referen/

So although we can sigh a breath of relief for now, how May/Johnson et al manage brokering a better deal for the UK will be the real telling factor. I personally think we have an amazing opportunity to be position the UK into a far stronger global position, I would just like to see the euro exchange rate to improve and that's got to happen.

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5 minutes ago, Chu said:

Will this thread end up locked too?.

 

I'd say that the Bookies would give good odds on that!!

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4 hours ago, pauliexjr said:

Unfortunately the groundswell amongst the great unknowing is such that Indyref2 (now being referred to as Scoxit) would probably result in the SNP actually getting their way, and even if they didn't  this time round the present stance seems to be they will keep going until they do get the desired result.

 

 

 

 

Thats an an interesting point, my experience of friends and work colleagues is that the staunch SNP "Indy at all costs" are unchanged in their view but the one's  who wavered and voted for Indy the last time due to project fear are now all against independence. If the latest GER's figures haven't convicted any undecided's I don't know what would. 

My guess for Indy2 would be 40/60. 

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5 hours ago, 528i-FAN said:

 

 

Thats an an interesting point, my experience of friends and work colleagues is that the staunch SNP "Indy at all costs" are unchanged in their view but the one's  who wavered and voted for Indy the last time due to project fear are now all against independence. If the latest GER's figures haven't convicted any undecided's I don't know what would. 

My guess for Indy2 would be 40/60. 

My (few) Indy pals are now beating their gums about the huge potential for renewable energy that is going to replace the oil revenues. They seem to think Scotland is the only area of the UK with a coastline and hills, blindly ignoring the fact that the majority of renewables currently on-stream are actually owned by E-ON who are German and we pay for them whether they are generating power or not! :lol:

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I reckon Scotland will have a Labour majority at the next election. The SNP are putting the country into further debt with their spend spend spend version of socialism. Bit like the whole UK under Brown. Once the novelty hs worn off it will be back to normal.

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9 hours ago, sandip said:

 

That all depends on you lot

No...it depends on you likeing it.

There is no freedom of speech.

Talk about a muslim..you get shot down.  Maybe i will get lots of stick for this but chances are you are muslim and are swayed to close them types of threads down and people let it happen in fear of being called racist. These things need discussing and i myself believe the ignorance of locking threads is similar to the ignorance between cultures on the street. Let em roll sandip...its just peoples views.x.

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2 hours ago, Chu said:

No...it depends on you likeing it.

There is no freedom of speech.

Talk about a muslim..you get shot down.  Maybe i will get lots of stick for this but chances are you are muslim and are swayed to close them types of threads down and people let it happen in fear of being called racist. These things need discussing and i myself believe the ignorance of locking threads is similar to the ignorance between cultures on the street. Let em roll sandip...its just peoples views.x.

 

I agreed with the thread being closed because a lot of it was plain ignorance just like this post. You'd be hard pressed to find a Muslim called Sandip. I reckon a total ban on religious discussions is in order just to stop the total BS that gets said. 

 

Also I'm fed up with people linking Britain's non membership of the EU to racism. That's just plain BS as well.

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14 hours ago, Chu said:

No...it depends on you likeing it.

There is no freedom of speech.

Talk about a muslim..you get shot down.  Maybe i will get lots of stick for this but chances are you are muslim and are swayed to close them types of threads down and people let it happen in fear of being called racist. These things need discussing and i myself believe the ignorance of locking threads is similar to the ignorance between cultures on the street. Let em roll sandip...its just peoples views.x.

 

Sandip is very likely to be a Sikh name. Edit "deleted"

 

However I commented on that thread which is now closed because there were some relevant facts which were missing.  I find it ironic that a comment was made in that thread which we are too tolerant as a society.  Some free speech does offend, and I for one wanted that thread to be locked sooner, because some posts in that thread were not to do with its subject title.  This forum is very tolerant and an argument could now be made that this forum should be less tolerant?  However I want to keep this thread clean and on topic - this thread is about all news post Brexit - and not about any previous thread (but I got the idea from the EU referendum poll and therefore happy to say it is linked to that thread), or frustration with the Administration team for locking that thread.  Therefore please start a new thread as this is now off topic.

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Written something which I now regret therefore deleted
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Thank you to the Scottish members for their posts as I found them interesting to read 

 

I posted this on Facebook when a mate shared the link which I previously posted: "As someone who visits Scotland several times a year - no surprise really. Hopefully now, Nicola Sturgeon will back Brexit instead of committing political suicide!".

 

As I feel a second referendum will be a stay vote and she will need to resign.  

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9 hours ago, Chu said:

No...it depends on you likeing it.

There is no freedom of speech.

Talk about a muslim..you get shot down.  Maybe i will get lots of stick for this but chances are you are muslim and are swayed to close them types of threads down and people let it happen in fear of being called racist. These things need discussing and i myself believe the ignorance of locking threads is similar to the ignorance between cultures on the street. Let em roll sandip...its just peoples views.x.

 

No I'm not Muslim (or Sikh) and fail to see why that matters!

 

Threads will get locked if they are deemed disrespectful.

 

There are many threads i don't "like" but I don't go shutting them down. 

 

Things need discussing, not entirely sure if they should be on a car forum. Keep it respectful and there's no problem. 

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Sad, didn't take long for the race card to raise it's ugly head.

 

As said, this topic is about Britain post-Brexit and the UK leaving the EU is, to my mind at least, a huge step towards economic independence and self-governance rather than anything to do with racism.

 

I find it hard to understand why the SNP are so dead keen on getting out from under the management by Westminster, who, following devolution, have very little say in the day-to-day workings of Scotland, yet are dead set on remaining in the EU where virtually every facet of our lives is touched bu EU legislation and economic influence. 

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1 hour ago, sandip said:

 

No I'm not Muslim (or Sikh) and fail to see why that matters!

 

Threads will get locked if they are deemed disrespectful.

 

There are many threads i don't "like" but I don't go shutting them down. 

 

Things need discussing, not entirely sure if they should be on a car forum. Keep it respectful and there's no problem. 

 

Totally. I used to have a few rants on here, politics etc, but now I just accept my lot and really CBA!

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I wonder why people get so hept up about things swaying off topic, in some instances like a technical thread then fair do's but as someone once said, "a discussion is organic so it will always go off in different directions" and people may even learn new things from what others have said :)

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^agree now get back on topic!!! Personally I prefer Lion bars!!

Also, now post the vote the new entrant / challenger banks share prices are fairing well. Personally hope this does show confidence in the market and hopefully interest rates will return to a more all round beneficial position.

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27 minutes ago, Lennox said:

 

^agree now get back on topic!!! Personally I prefer Lion bars!!

Also, now post the vote the new entrant / challenger banks share prices are fairing well. Personally hope this does show confidence in the market and hopefully interest rates will return to a more all round beneficial position.

''The UK economy may be humming along regardless of the vote, or it may be a cartoon cat that has run off a cliff but not yet perceived the abyss below.'' (F.T.)

 

 

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Hi,

 

For me it's relatively straightforward. The future success of the country depends on if there's good, strong and favourable trade deals done. If over the coming months/couple of years signs point to that direction with the other big economies of the world, the UK will increase it's chances of remaining as strong as it is now i.e maintain it's standards of living, costs of living, membership of the G7/G8. 

 

If the trade deals aren't so good or favourable, or key deals with certain other countries don't come about, then things will deteriorate. That's when aspects like taxes will need to be raised and significant cuts in spending will need to be done. 

 

We're 'currently' in the 'limbo' scenario, various aspects have cooled off as the country is uncertain as to what will actually happen once article 50 is invoked. There's been some news of investment after the vote which is good, there's also plenty of news about suspension of investment and much more worryingly, withdrawal from the UK in case trade deals and government level aspects don't happen or aren't as favourable as they could be.

 

The link above explains Scotland's situation had it voted to leave the UK, it doesn't have the resources to 'maintain' it's position. On the larger UK scale, it's the same, the whole four nations MUST be able to ensure money flows at least like it does now in order to maintain us as we are.

 

Cheers, Dennis!

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I see Nicky is writing to over 2 million of her fellow Scots to ask their views on leaving the EU. Oops, leaving the UK? That letter is going to make all the difference

 

I was near Kilmarnock on Friday and reminded of the quality of advisory signs on motorways in Scotland. They are so caring and informal. You half expect them to say, 'It looks like rain. Take your coat' and 'Have you got a clean hankie?'  Of course, the practise of marking lane 1 like it is only to be used for the next exit is a little confusing. Especially as sometimes it really does mean that   

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