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Mines showing overdue a vehicle check service. I had thought that was the MOT but from a bit of reading it's a different thing. I check the car myself routinely anyway so I'm not going to bother getting it done. That means I have to cancel the mondial warranty which I've been meaning to do anyway. 

 

Or am I mad..

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12 minutes ago, bmwmike said:

Mines showing overdue a vehicle check service. I had thought that was the MOT but from a bit of reading it's a different thing. I check the car myself routinely anyway so I'm not going to bother getting it done. That means I have to cancel the mondial warranty which I've been meaning to do anyway. 

 

Or am I mad..

N53 with no warranty - yes you are mad!

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11 minutes ago, E39touring said:

N53 with no warranty - yes you are mad!

Haha quite. Though they are much more reliable these days. It's got latest injectors (index 11) and the HPFP is the same as the n55. The coilpacks are cheap. NOx sensor failure is in the post for sure but I'm not fitting OEM anyway.  The coolant pump is the same as N55 and that is 500 quid but an ok DIY.  Rest of the engine pretty solid. There is a lot of n53 knowledge on the Internet.

 

On the flipside I've found my local dealers are not very familiar with this engine anyway.

 

I had intended to switch to an m5 but I looked at one on the weekend and I've been put off a bit. Also looking at youtube videos of m5 reviews and reading the M badge thread on PH has given me an ahhhlright bruv wots appening innit impression that I need to shake.

 

So "what did I do to my f10 today" well I decided to keep it longer. Hence a bit of strategising around risk v. warranty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yeah, my mate has a 63 reg M5 and the interior is very ordinary.

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7 minutes ago, bmwmike said:

Haha quite. Though they are much more reliable these days. It's got latest injectors (index 11) and the HPFP is the same as the n55. The coilpacks are cheap. NOx sensor failure is in the post for sure but I'm not fitting OEM anyway.  The coolant pump is the same as N55 and that is 500 quid but an ok DIY.  Rest of the engine pretty solid. There is a lot of n53 knowledge on the Internet.

 

On the flipside I've found my local dealers are not very familiar with this engine anyway.

 

I had intended to switch to an m5 but I looked at one on the weekend and I've been put off a bit. Also looking at youtube videos of m5 reviews and reading the M badge thread on PH has given me an ahhhlright bruv wots appening innit impression that I need to shake.

 

So "what did I do to my f10 today" well I decided to keep it longer. Hence a bit of strategising around risk v. warranty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ive just had the HPFP done on mine... 

NOX sensor needs doing, but there genuine dealer parts only... So it can wait for now. 

Other than that, mines been fine (touch wood) 

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2 minutes ago, Saunders76 said:

Ive just had the HPFP done on mine... 

NOX sensor needs doing, but there genuine dealer parts only... So it can wait for now. 

Other than that, mines been fine (touch wood) 

 

Interesting... what were the symptoms and cost if you don't mind saying?

 

Nox I'm going to put a NOXEM in instead of the OEM. See bimmerprofs.

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4 hours ago, E39touring said:

There is a value line kit available, 

 

Sure is for pads and wear sensor.  Requested price from Cotswolds for discs too for which I am prepared to 

 

2 hours ago, sshooie said:

Brace yourself...

 

As its the thicker discs which are side specific, not the milk bottle tops you get on the 530ds.:P

 

3 hours ago, bmwmike said:

On the flipside I've found my local dealers are not very familiar with this engine anyway.

 

My dealer is the same.  "A petrol BMW", sharp intake of breath, "we don't get many of them in here Sir".......

 

Vehicle Check service is pretty much an MOT test plus engine checks but they can charge at their full hours labour rate and not the knock down MOT rate.

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Had an intermediate oil service carried out and the front disc pads changed at 60000 miles - discs still fine.

 

Summer wheels got a coating of rim wax ready to go on tomorrow.

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26 minutes ago, E39mad said:

 

Summer wheels got a coating of rim wax ready to go on tomorrow.

Are you guaranteeing an improvement in the weather? If so, I'll get the summers back on our Clubman! 

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Depends where you live - looking good for NE Cheshire

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9 hours ago, Saunders76 said:

Well I got the pump from work (I work at ECP) and it was a genuine pump that we supply cost just under £600....and fitting was £120

 

I don't know about the noxem..... 

 

Is that the employer rates ECP ? I just had a look for mine and it was over 1k.

 

What were your symptoms and who diagnosed HPFP failure, as I understand it they are very reliable these days. "Very" meaning about as reliable as modern mass produced crap gets these days.

 

 

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1 hour ago, bmwmike said:

 

Is that the employer rates ECP ? I just had a look for mine and it was over 1k.

 

What were your symptoms and who diagnosed HPFP failure, as I understand it they are very reliable these days. "Very" meaning about as reliable as modern mass produced crap gets these days.

 

 

Yeah staff price.... But can do decent discount if anyone needs one. 

 

Symptom was....  on idle with temp gauge in the middle (normal running temperature) it would just run out of revs... And stall. 

Even blipping the throttle wouldn't keep it going. 

Oddly though it would fire straight back up again.... And never did it while actually driving. 

 

Took it to my local BMW specialist, who are both 'M' trained master techs. 

The guy said it was very common on the earlier models and the pump was basically the same. He'd not seen it on the F10/F11 models as mine was one of the first petrols they had in (apart from the M5's) 

All seems to be sorted now.... Just a NOX sensor to do when I have some spare money.... 

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So can anyone explain what the main difference is between N47 and B47 in the F10/F11? Are all 520d F11 with B47 190bhp?

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B47 is a post Jul 2014 build. Totally new design engine with 190BHP

N47 is a pre Jul 2014 build, 183BHP (I think).

 

B47 is a better engine in nearly every department apart from MPG where is falls some way short of the N47 

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43 minutes ago, Saunders76 said:

Yeah staff price.... But can do decent discount if anyone needs one. 

 

Symptom was....  on idle with temp gauge in the middle (normal running temperature) it would just run out of revs... And stall. 

Even blipping the throttle wouldn't keep it going. 

Oddly though it would fire straight back up again.... And never did it while actually driving. 

 

Took it to my local BMW specialist, who are both 'M' trained master techs. 

The guy said it was very common on the earlier models and the pump was basically the same. He'd not seen it on the F10/F11 models as mine was one of the first petrols they had in (apart from the M5's) 

All seems to be sorted now.... Just a NOX sensor to do when I have some spare money.... 

 

Thanks for the info. 

 

It's the first I've heard of a late n53 having an HPFP failure. BMW replaced lots in the early days though. The m5 has two of those pumps!

 

 

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1 hour ago, nashdm2 said:

B47 is a post Jul 2014 build. Totally new design engine with 190BHP

N47 is a pre Jul 2014 build, 183BHP (I think).

 

B47 is a better engine in nearly every department apart from MPG where is falls some way short of the N47 

B47 is Euro 6 compliant. 

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9 hours ago, GEO147 said:

So can anyone explain what the main difference is between N47 and B47 in the F10/F11? Are all 520d F11 with B47 190bhp?

 

The B47 has a timing chain that so far is proving to be much more reliable in service than the one in the N47.

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3 hours ago, 535i Andrew said:

 

The B47 has a timing chain that so far is proving to be much more reliable in service than the one in the N47.

Yeah I was aware of that and is a major reason why I chose the car I did. Going to see and hopefully pick up tomorrow. :)

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